The Atheist Theist Tension

[carpedm9587]

I c8n't help it.

I'm a πr8

[One Bad Pig]

I actually no longer have a view. The issue appears to be in some dispute. Sometimes I just say, "I don't know." The section you provide certainly provides some information, and I may find some time to dig out the resources. However, in the long and short of it, this is not a major issue for me, so I'm good with "I don't know."

I will, however, cease claiming that Christian appropriated a pagan festival. The fact is, we don't know they did and it is possible they didn't.

That works for me.

[Cow Poke]

Not if the practice shouldn't be done at all...

How long a thing has been done is not an argument that it should be done.

Your observation was that it was only for a brief time - it was obviously not just a brief time. It was much more like I had originally suggested, and you opposed. Now you're just pedaling backwards.

[carpedm9587]

Your observation was that it was only for a brief time - it was obviously not just a brief time.

Actually, my argument was that it was a McCarthy-era change - and that argument was in error, as I have noted.

It was much more like I had originally suggested, and you opposed. Now you're just pedaling backwards.

I did note that we made do without it for 200+ years, and it turns out we only made do without for slightly under 100 years. The larger point is that government has no business putting religious slogans on official, government-backed, documents.

That being said...as I have noted before...it is not an opinion I am willing to die for. Religions have dominated the U.S. for a long time, and will for some time still. The title "atheist" is still reason enough to not vote for a candidate. When that changes, it will be soon enough to revisit the issue. I doubt that will be in my lifetime (which is increasingly short).

I AM willing to go to battle for civil rights - but not for "atheist rights."

[One Bad Pig]

I AM willing to go to battle for civil rights - but not for "atheist rights."

Well, except for matters of currency, or pledging allegiance.....

[carpedm9587]

Well, except for matters of currency, or pledging allegiance.....

I think I've been fairly clear that I have no intention of "battling" over either of those. Perhaps "battling" means something else to you? To me, it means "contending." I simply abstain. I have no intention of contending. Expressing an opinion is not "battling." The topic has received far more attention here than I've given it for a long time.

[Mountain Man]

Why don't you get your own holy day, then, and leave Christmas to the Christians.

We already have a day for celebrating atheism:

April 1st

[Cow Poke]

We already have a day for celebrating atheism:

April 1st

But April 1st already.....



I see what you did there.

[carpedm9587]

But April 1st already.....

I see what you did there.

Actually...it is celebrated on April 30th.

[shunyadragon]

We need to start a 'mutual admiration of picking of nit society', and we can be charter members!

element771 holds the standard above all others.

[Cow Poke]

element771 holds the standard above all others.

I forget, is that polygdomym or palomonium?

[Roy]

I forget, is that polygdomym or palomonium?

Pseudonym.

[shunyadragon]

I forget, is that polygdomym or palomonium?

Polygamy or Jacob's Ladder?

[Mountain Man]

Actually...it is celebrated on April 30th.

Even a fool can be honest.

[carpedm9587]

Even a fool can be honest.

At least you're consistent...