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How is that not finite?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV -
It is the Quantum World that is possibly eternal and/or infinite, and not individual microscopic particle of matter measured in terms of Quanta..Originally posted by 37818 View Post
You still need a basic high school level physics course.Comment
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Infinite and eternal existences of finite things do not make what is finite not to be finite and temporal.Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJVComment
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What is finite and temporal is the particles including atoms, molecules, and human beings in our physical existence does not make our physical existence finite and temporal.Originally posted by 37818 View PostComment
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That just moves your problem back one step: If the multiverse caused our present universe, then what caused the multiverse?Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Not to mention the general scientific implausibility of the multiverse hypothesis...
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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In order for anything to exist eternally there needs to be an uncaused Existence, be it God or not. The simple truth is you do not want God to be God.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJVComment
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In order for our physical existence [spacetime] to be eternal it has to have for it an uncaused Existence. The evidence is our physical existence began [13.7 billion years ago]. And there is an uncaused Existence [which is a metaphysical argument].Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJVComment
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By far the the majority of the scientists support the possibility of the Multiverse hypothesis.Despite your hookus boogus reference do you deny this?\\Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
IT IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC REFERENCE. It misrepresents scientists without provided accurate citations from their works.
What caused the Multiverse? The Multiverse possibly exists in an eternal infinite Quantum World, and there are possibly many Multiverses.
What caused God?Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-04-2018, 12:16 PM.Comment
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Regardless of what people want it is possible an eternal infinite physical existence exists, and an eternal Natural Law is the eternal cause.Originally posted by 37818 View PostComment
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Yes and I'm positing an eternal, infinite, material existence existing. This has nothing to do with gods existing or not.Originally posted by 37818 View PostComment
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In order for there to be an eternal material existence there has to be the metaphysical eternal. Material existence consists of temporal things.Originally posted by Tassman View Post. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJVComment
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Causes are temporal and finite or they would not be a cause. An eternal cause as a unite consists of being both eternal and temporal. Physical existence consists of temporal and finite things. An eternal physical existence has a beginning but no end. The issue of being eternal is a metaphysical one.Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJVComment
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By this logic God is temporal, but in reality it is a phony line of reasoning.Originally posted by 37818 View Post
No, it is not totally a metaphysical one. Our physical existence remains possibly eternal and infinite, and natural law remains possibly eternal and the cause.An eternal cause as a unite consists of being both eternal and temporal. Physical existence consists of temporal and finite things. An eternal physical existence has a beginning but no end. The issue of being eternal is a metaphysical one.
Despite repeating your assertions over and over you have failed to present a coherent argument.Comment
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Natural, material existence possibly consists of temporal things existing eternally.Originally posted by 37818 View PostComment
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