Which Would You Personally Prefer...

[37818]

Like I said, your logic is as mangled as 37818's logic.

Jim, Sparko is making the clear distinction in that there are three that are "who" being the one "what." A "person" is a different classification than "deity." "Person" and "deity" are not the same "thing."

[JimL]

No it isn't because there is no contradiction like in 37818's statement. 'Persons' are a different class than 'God'

Correct, and a father, a son, and a holy ghost are 3 persons, not one god and any attempt to make 3 = 1 is a contradiction. Jesus was on earth and said "my father who is up in heaven." That's 2 persons separated by space. Who knows where the holy ghost was at the time?

[JimL]

Jim, Sparko is making the clear distinction in that there are three that are "who" being the one "what." A "person" is a different classification than "deity." "Person" and "deity" are not the same "thing."

Still mangled.

[Tassman]

they are plural persons not entities. God is one God revealed in three distinct persons. Each person is fully God. One God, not three.

This is the heresy of 'Modalism', whereby God is only one person who reveals himself in different ways or modes, rather than three co-eternal persons within the Godhead. In the good ol' days you would have been burnt at the stake for this sin against orthodoxy.

[Sparko]

Correct, and a father, a son, and a holy ghost are 3 persons, not one god and any attempt to make 3 = 1 is a contradiction. Jesus was on earth and said "my father who is up in heaven." That's 2 persons separated by space. Who knows where the holy ghost was at the time?

God is omnipresent.

[JimL]

God is omnipresent.

Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani. Was Jesus talking to himself there, Sparko?

[Sparko]

Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani. Was Jesus talking to himself there, Sparko?

You still do not understand that 1: Jesus had two natures, Man and God and 2: "Person" is not the same category as "God," and 3: What happened on the cross.

[JimL]

You still do not understand that 1: Jesus had two natures, Man and God and 2: "Person" is not the same category as "God," and 3: What happened on the cross.

And 1) Try answering the question then. Who was Jesus talking to when he, on the cross, down here on earth yelled out; "father, father, why have you forsaken me?"

[Sparko]

And 1) Try answering the question then. Who was Jesus talking to when he, on the cross, down here on earth yelled out; "father, father, why have you forsaken me?"

The Father. duh.

[JimL]

The Father. duh.

Exactly, so Jesus wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to someone else, correct?

[Sparko]

Exactly, so Jesus wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to someone else, correct?

3 Persons, JimL. That's more than one person.

[37818]

Correct, and a father, a son, and a holy ghost are 3 persons, not one god and any attempt to make 3 = 1 is a contradiction. Jesus was on earth and said "my father who is up in heaven." That's 2 persons separated by space. Who knows where the holy ghost was at the time?

Does the term "person" mean "god?" No. Now God is a person (the Father). But deity (God) and personhood are two distinct things. As for the Holy Spirit He is referred to as the Spirit of Truth (John 14:16-17). The Apostle Paul refers to Him as the "Spirit of God" and as the "Spirit of Christ" (Romans 8:9) by whom Christians know they are Christians (Romans 8:16) the Holy Spirit being a Person "itself" (Himself, but no gender, not masculine therefore "itself").

[JimL]

3 Persons, JimL. That's more than one person.

Right, so Jesus wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to someone else, correct?

[Sparko]

Right, so Jesus wasn't talking to himself, he was talking to someone else, correct?

One God revealed as 3 distinct persons.

[JimL]

Are persons gods? No. God is a person (Father).

Do you not recognize your own contradictions as you type them out?

But deity (God) and personhood are two distinct things.

Again, you make simple inexplicable assertions because you can not make logical sense of what you mean by those assertions.

As for the Holy Spirit He is referred to as the Spirit of Truth (John 14:16-17). The Apostle Paul refers to Him as the "Spirit of God" and as the "Spirit of Christ" (Romans 8:9) by whom Christians know they are Christians (Romans 8:16) the Holy Spirit being a Person "itself" (Himself, but no gender, not masculine therefore "itself").

I didn't ask, but thanks anyway.