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Interpretation the Trinity is polytheistic
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. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThat is an assertion that is hard to backup when the Trinity refers to three distinct individual Divine persons described as Gods.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Christianity teaches that Trinity is the belief that God is one manifested in three persons; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and each Person is fully God.
However, Jesus refuted over and over trinity in the Bible. For example, Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 that "no one knows that day and hour nor the Son not even the angels in heaven BUT ONLY THE FATHER". Only means only; therefore, Jesus proved that the Holy Spirit does not know that hour or that day.
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostChristianity teaches that Trinity is the belief that God is one manifested in three persons; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and each Person is fully God.
However, Jesus refuted over and over trinity in the Bible. For example, Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 that "no one knows that day and hour nor the Son not even the angels in heaven BUT ONLY THE FATHER". Only means only; therefore, Jesus proved that the Holy Spirit does not know that hour or that day.
For example, The Word was always both God and with God and the sole agent from God to cause creation. John 1:1-3.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostBecause you do not understand.
For example, The Word was always both God and with God and the sole agent from God to cause creation. John 1:1-3.
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostNo. God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons. Who are the one Self Existent God.
God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism.Last edited by shunyadragon; 01-10-2020, 07:32 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . which are three Gods in one, the same as the Gods of Hinduism as many Gods in one Brahman, and classic polytheism. Multiple Gods are multiple Gods regardless of how you do the math.
God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . which are three Gods in one, the same as the Gods of Hinduism as many Gods in one Brahman, and classic polytheism. Multiple Gods are multiple Gods regardless of how you do the math.
God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostSilly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
" . . . three separate distinct persons."
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIt's still illogical to say that god was always both god and with god and the sole agent from god to cause creation. I mean it isn't that we don't know what you are saying, it's just that what you are saying is illogical.
What you do not understand is that you can know God. But it is not just you. "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." -- Romans 3:11. ". . . That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: . . ." to the Ephesians 2:12.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostSilly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostSo you think John 1:1-2 is illogical, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. . . ."
What you do not understand is that you can know God. But it is not just you. "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." -- Romans 3:11. ". . . That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: . . ." to the Ephesians 2:12.
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostSilly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
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