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  • Books on differing views of Creation

    Unsure if this is the correct forum for this topic.

    I'm asking any of the members of TWeb if they know of good books to review the various different ways to interpret Genesis, their proofs, their difficult points, their references for further study, etc. Poetic interpretations, semi-literal interpretations, etc. I don't particularly care for a YEC interpretation, having left the camp long ago myself and being more than sure on my decision, but I won't refuse it as I might as well be thorough. I mainly ask this as I feel like it's long overdue time for me to be prepared to give an answer for my position to my family and friends who challenge me on this topic, as well as in case I need to correct any nonbelievers about altering views of the first book of the Scripture.

    Also, any sources for defining faith as something other than "believing without proof?" I'd like to be able to convince some of my fellow Christians that that is a bad definition of faith, despite what certain special interest groups want.

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    The view I hold is an old universe and old-young earth view. I have no problem with the universe being 13.8 billion years old or older. I have no problem with the earth and the solar system being dated 4.54 billion years old. Yet, I believe in 6 days, rotations of the earth Genesis 1:3-. Sun becoming a star on the first day, and the Sun, Moon with the stars becoming visible on the fourth day (Do to the solar wind). I believe in a literal world wide flood.

    Here are three web sites which can refer you to the kind of books you are looking for:

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...tarlight-prove

    http://www.reasons.org/articles/nota...th-perspective

    http://www.icr.org/article/young-earth/

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    • #3
      Are you familiar with Hugh Ross? He has books on an Old Earth literal interpretation. He also has a web site http://www.reasons.org/
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      • #4
        I did a quick search on if there were any of the "Four Views" type books on this subject and I found something written about 15 years ago that is out of print now and may not even largely focus on where the debate has gone today. However, I think this recent book would be useful: http://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-His.../dp/0310499275 Despite the title, the book does have representation from the YEC, OEC, TE, and John Walton (whom I don't think takes a public position, saying it's a scientist's job, but he has good things to say on the topic). I haven't read the book but it has a good selection of scholars and is available on Kindle for less than $11.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          A couple other quick hits: The site Jedidiah linked is a good one to learn about the Old Earth Creationist view. For a Young Earth Creationist view, check out the Answers in Genesis Website. For a Theistic Evolution view, there are tons of resources at http://www.biologos.org

          As for your question about faith: Check this page out. http://tektonics.org/whatis/whatfaith.php
          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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          • #6
            That four views is roughly what I was looking for. Sadly, my main source for this type of discussion, Glenn Morton's site, is no longer online, and I'm scrambling a bit to find other sources to defend my views with. Especially since everyone I know, including myself, is very stubborn when it comes to views we hold.

            Would you happen to know if this four views book holds any information on faithfully interpreting the first few chapters of Genesis as more poetic rather than literal? Glenn Morton still was somewhat literal in his interpretation (but neither YEC or OEC). If not, know of any resources on the subject?

            And thanks for the link for faith. I actually ended up finding it while waiting, but thanks anyways.

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            • #7
              I keep hearing that Walton's Lost World of Genesis is phenomenal. There's one called Origins that I haven't read yet, but it basically summarizes all of the origins and creation views in one book.

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              • #8
                Reasons To Believe (org mentioned above) http://www.reasons.org/articles/four...eation-account has a brief overview of YEC, Day Age, Framework and Analogical Days.
                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iTeluog View Post
                  I keep hearing that Walton's Lost World of Genesis is phenomenal. There's one called Origins that I haven't read yet, but it basically summarizes all of the origins and creation views in one book.
                  Walton's book is worth reading though it doesn't really wade into the issues of the differing views so much as it attempts to contextualize Gen 1 and 2.
                  "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    Walton's book is worth reading though it doesn't really wade into the issues of the differing views so much as it attempts to contextualize Gen 1 and 2.
                    Well that sounds like a darnz good place to start, doesn't it?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by iTeluog View Post
                      I keep hearing that Walton's Lost World of Genesis is phenomenal. There's one called Origins that I haven't read yet, but it basically summarizes all of the origins and creation views in one book.
                      For a taste of Lost World of Genesis and Here.

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                      • #12
                        My suggestion is little off the OP but related. I am hoping to provide an option to give you a more rounded answer. A friend (YEC) and I (undecided creationist) are working through Christoph Cardinal Schonborn's Chance or Purpose? While we don't agree with his more evolutionary position, we do appreciate the time he takes to explain the theology of being created beings in relationship to God. His thoughts on evolutionism as a philosophy are worth the read and may actually be more helpful in answering people. By way, this is small book that densely packed.
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