Christians and Trump--two perspectives

[Timothy]

Right back atcha, champ. There is indeed a side which wants to minimize what happened. I'm not on that side. There is also a side which wants to exaggerate what happened. I'm not on that side either. I agree, the facts don't care about my feelings - which is why I'm going to decline your offer to believe whatever I want.

January 6th happened. It was a riot. It was stupid, and those who took part merited punishment - in line with the punishment received by other rioters, both there and elsewhere. Calling it an insurrection is an insult to the very idea of an insurrection. the "insurrectionists" didn't kill anybody, didn't even attempt to kill anybody, didn't attempt to disrupt - much less overthrow - the government, didn't attempt to even take anyone hostage, generally respected, rather than destroyed, government property once they got inside....

I stand by my earlier assessment, your emotively dismissive reply notwithstanding. The irony of you accusing me of going by my feelings is rich indeed.

This is interesting:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...299b4aaf&ei=44

I didn't realize that minimizing the insurrection of January 6th was a MAGA right wing talking point. I guess it has to be, otherwise the orange savior is shown in a poor light, and they can't have that.

[Cow Poke]

This is interesting:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...299b4aaf&ei=44

I didn't realize that minimizing the insurrection of January 6th was a MAGA right wing talking point. I guess it has to be, otherwise the orange savior is shown in a poor light, and they can't have that.

Weaponizing the Jan6 Riot by the left and maximizing it for political gain has been a major source of fundraising, including repeating outright lies that had already been proven false.

[One Bad Pig]

This is interesting:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...299b4aaf&ei=44

I didn't realize that minimizing the insurrection of January 6th was a MAGA right wing talking point. I guess it has to be, otherwise the orange savior is shown in a poor light, and they can't have that.

My apologies, I didn't know you were here merely to troll.

Carry on.

[Timothy]

Weaponizing the Jan6 Riot by the left and maximizing it for political gain has been a major source of fundraising, including repeating outright lies that had already been proven false.

OF COURSE it is a source of funraising! People are angry that this happened. Now you are saying that it is an outright lie. I realize that you have to deny the insurrection riot and minimize it. This lets you support your orange leader for reasons of your own. You and OBP can have Trump. Good luck and have a good day.

[Timothy]

My apologies, I didn't know you were here merely to troll.

Carry on.

Thank you. I just thought it was note worthy that Erick Erickson was caught selling the same brand of cow manure that you are trying to sell me.

We now return you to Fox and Friends in progress.

[Cow Poke]

OF COURSE it is a source of funraising!

Democrats don't do anything fun.

People are angry that this happened.

Yeah, me, too!

Now you are saying that it is an outright lie.

No, sir - you saying that I'm saying it is an outright lie would be an outright lie.
I NEVER said that, and have consistently called it a riot, and I'm in favor of everybody who broke the law being charged and prosecuted (but to the same extent as any other rioter would be).

I realize that you have to deny the insurrection riot and minimize it.

No, sir - it was a riot - WAY out of control.

This lets you support your orange leader for reasons of your own.

Jesus Christ is my leader, Timothy - I just don't lose my ever-lovin' mind over a mere man like some of you do.

You and OBP can have Trump.

I know I don't want him, and I'm pretty sure OBP feels the same way.

Good luck

I don't believe in luck.

and have a good day.

To me, every day is a good day!

[One Bad Pig]

Thank you. I just thought it was note worthy that Erick Erickson was caught selling the same brand of cow manure that you are trying to sell me.

We now return you to Fox and Friends in progress.

There was no need to continue providing evidence I had you pegged.

[Timothy]

No, sir - you saying that I'm saying it is an outright lie would be an outright lie.
I NEVER said that...

Do you ever read what you post?

...including repeating outright lies...

[Cow Poke]

Do you ever read what you post?

I do, and I also read where you absolutely misrepresented my position.
I'll be gracious, however, and chalk it up to ignorance on your part, not malevolence.

That better?

[Cow Poke]

I'll type this really slowly for you, my dear son, Timothy....

....Now you are saying that it is an outright lie.....

Assuming you're referring to the riot - I never EVER said it was an outright lie.
That would be you lying about what I said. Cause I never EVER said that.

[Timothy]

There was no need to continue providing evidence I had you pegged.

I just honestly did not know that referring to January 6th as a "riot" and not an "insurrection" was a MAGA talking point until I saw that news item. After I saw that, our discussion made perfect sense.

I know you have me pegged as a non-trumper. That's fair. I'm an original Never Trumper and I am proud that I remained Never-Trump from the beginning. It's due to Trump's vulgarity, immorality, indecency, dishonesty, mendacity, mockery, arrogance, and ignorance.

[One Bad Pig]

I just honestly did not know that referring to January 6th as a "riot" and not an "insurrection" was a MAGA talking point until I saw that news item. After I saw that, our discussion made perfect sense.

I know you have me pegged as a non-trumper. That's fair. I'm an original Never Trumper and I am proud that I remained Never-Trump from the beginning. It's due to Trump's vulgarity, immorality, indecency, dishonesty, mendacity, mockery, arrogance, and ignorance.

Bully for you. You appear to have me pegged as a MAGA Trump supporter. They may talk about it, but the observation is not a mere "talking point" and is hardly limited to them. I'm vaguely aware that Erick Erickson exists; he's not someone I seek out in forming my own opinions. I'm fairly certain I've never watched "Fox and Friends"; my TV doesn't get much use outside of football season.

[Timothy]

Bully for you. You appear to have me pegged as a MAGA Trump supporter. They may talk about it, but the observation is not a mere "talking point" and is hardly limited to them. I'm vaguely aware that Erick Erickson exists; he's not someone I seek out in forming my own opinions. I'm fairly certain I've never watched "Fox and Friends"; my TV doesn't get much use outside of football season.

I do. Birds of a feather flock together. You talk exactly like them.

[Cerebrum123]

I do. Birds of a feather flock together. You talk exactly like them.

This is the kind of thing that pushes people in the middle to the fringes. Although, given you are likely already on the fringe you probably want that. Gotta keep that hate train going.

[KingsGambit]

I do. Birds of a feather flock together. You talk exactly like them.

One Bad Pig has never been an open Trump supporter here. How arrogant of you to come on here after a long absence and make confident, incorrect, claims about others who have been here the whole time.