Christians and Trump--two perspectives

[Timothy]

So good so far....

Thanks

It's misleading.

No,it isn't. People died as a result of the insurrection and it is misleading to say that it wasn't so bad.

Do you believe abortion is immoral?

This again? Yes, I believe that abortion is immoral. I also believe that more than one thing can be immoral at the same time. What does abortion have to do with the insurrection on January 6th? Do you think that abortion makes insurrection right? Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence? As Christians we have to weigh all of the issues, not just one. Then we have to do the best we can.

[One Bad Pig]

Five people died, Beverly

Non sequitur. That has nothing to do with improperly classifying it as an insurrection.

And, as Cow Poke pointed out, only one person died as a direct consequence of the riot, and she was killed by a trigger-happy desk jockey who was in no way in imminent danger.

[Cow Poke]

Thanks

You bet!

No,it isn't.

Yes, it is.

People died as a result of the insurrection and it is misleading to say that it wasn't so bad.

A) It wasn't an insurrection - it was a riot.
2) I never said it "wasn't so bad" - it was horrendous.
c) It is misleading to imply that people who died of natural causes (heart attack, etc) died "as a result of the insurrection riot". Even factcheck.org agrees.
iv) The ONLY person who died that day as a direct result of the riot was an unarmed female Air Force verteran.

This again? Yes, I believe that abortion is immoral.

And the Democrats have opted to make that their #1 Campaign issue, along with their very enthusiastic support for LGBQT+++ and other issues.

I also believe that more than one thing can be immoral at the same time. What does abortion have to do with the insurrection on January 6th?

Ah, Timothy --- you disappoint me --- there is nothing in my post that implies that abortion has anything to do with the riot.
It DOES, however, have to do with the entire focus of the Democratic Party in the upcoming election.

Do you think that abortion makes insurrection right?

wow

Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence?

I missed that - I was under the impression he was still alive!

As Christians we have to weigh all of the issues, not just one.

So, it appears you are hyper-focused on this alleged "insurrection", and ignoring the overall platform of the Democratic Party.

Then we have to do the best we can.

I try.

[Timothy]

I missed that - I was under the impression he was still alive!

He is still alive. The question was "Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence?" The insurrectionists never made to Mike Pence, but I believe the question is still open.

[Cow Poke]

He is still alive.

Yeah, I know.

The question was "Do you believe that it is immoral to hang Mike Pence?"

Absolutely, but nobody did that.

The insurrectionists

rioters

never made to Mike Pence, but I believe the question is still open.

meh

[Timothy]

rioters

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

[Cow Poke]

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

There simply was no insurrection, hence, no insurrectionists.

This horse has been beaten so badly and for so long that pretty much all that remains is his shattered bones.

You can have the last word.

[One Bad Pig]

Why the word quibble? insurrectionists are also necessarily rioters. Rioters who storm the capital building are also insurrectionists. You say tomato, I say tomato.

It's not a quibble, champ. Insurrectionists don't wander around, staying respectfully inside the guide ropes, taking selfies once they get inside. I understand you're attempting to manufacture outrage, here, but it looks faintly ridiculous.

[Timothy]

There simply was no insurrection, hence, no insurrectionists.

This horse has been beaten so badly and for so long that pretty much all that remains is his shattered bones.

You can have the last word.

Whatever. Take another look, if you want to see.

[Timothy]

It's not a quibble, champ. Insurrectionists don't wander around, staying respectfully inside the guide ropes, taking selfies once they get inside. I understand you're attempting to manufacture outrage, here, but it looks faintly ridiculous.

Yeah, that isn't what happened. Nice try though. I don't need to manufacture outrage. January 6th happened, and one side wants to minimize what happened. Whatever. Believe whatever you want. The facts don't care about your feelings, and all that. Have a nice day.

[Timothy]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56004916

[Thoughtful Monk]

I used to believe that, but not anymore. They are just two puppets controlled by the same person. They might appear to fight against each other, but the same force drives them both.

I have a friend who calls them the monoparty.

[Thoughtful Monk]

So it comes down to, in my opinion, work [or vote] like it depends on you, but pray like it depends on God.

(with far more emphasis on the latter)

I confess I am checking out of the political party. I've come to the conclusion that both are more drawn to maintaining their power than doing good for their city, county, state, or USA. Now if I could just pray more.

[Cerebrum123]

I have a friend who calls them the monoparty.

I've usually heard of it being called the uniparty, but that also works.

[Cow Poke]

I've usually heard of it being called the uniparty, but that also works.

How bout the unipotty? Give it a New England flair.