Pop preachers and their heretical beliefs

[mossrose]

He's not really a "Word-Faith" guy, but yeah, he was the first who came to mind. Until Mossy's post, I'd never heard of anyone else making those claims. His claim was along the lines that Virginia Beach was frequently hit by major storms, but that after he prayed against one, it was never struck again.

Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland and Jesse DuPlantis also have made those claims and done their proclamations, which did nothing. Also, as I mentioned, Bill Johnson from Bethel Redding tried to stop the fires by his word, but that didn't work either.

[mossrose]

Wasn't it Pat Robertson who once claimed to redirect a hurricane through his prayer?

Yes, I'd heard he did that, too.

[mossrose]

Hurricanes are important for mixing up the ocean. So, don't think that prayer would be successful.

The prayer also wouldn't work because no man can change the weather by the word of his mouth. Only God controls the weather.

[rogue06]

Hurricanes are important for mixing up the ocean. So, don't think that prayer would be successful.

Hurricanes are also an important to the ecosystems in the Southeast. They are what pretty much ends a drought.

[Christianbookworm]

Yeah, just because Jesus can calm the storm doesn't mean He'll do it if anyone asks. Especially when there's good that comes from it. Why do people still live on the coasts?

[Faber]

Wasn't it Pat Robertson who once claimed to redirect a hurricane through his prayer?

That was Hurricane Gloria, in 1985. He prayed that it would change its path and not hit the coast of Virginia. But hurricanes do that all the time. What evidence is there that it was because of him that it happened.

Looking at its path, there doesn't seem to have been any noticeable course change.
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[NorrinRadd]

Actually, Gloria was only the most recent at that time. I was pretty sure I recalled him making the claim prior to that, so I dug out his 1985 book, Beyond Reason. Therein he recounts at some length the time the Lord granted him the faith to rebuke a hurricane back in 1965.

And I'm pretty sure he'd told the story on-air a few times before that.

[The Melody Maker]

And now, you too can learn how to keep the devil out of your house by disposing of all your cursed objects! (And if you believe that, then I have real estate for sale on the moon!)

I'd say LeClaire's books are the cursed objects.

[mossrose]

This just in. And please do not call Jesse Duplantis an “evangelical” preacher.

http://ow.ly/FlIG50GgAxR?fbclid=IwAR...rqL3RpC0vWRcbY

Evangelical pastor claims that the reason Jesus hasn’t returned is because people aren’t donating enough money


If we want Jesus to come back, then apparently we’ll have to dig deep into our pockets, according to right-wing evangelical pastor Jesse Duplantis.

During a recent four-day, live TV event Victorython on the Victory channel, Duplantis made the bizarre claim that people aren’t donating to their churches generously enough, and this is the reason why Jesus has not yet made a reappearance.

“I honestly believe this — the reason why Jesus hasn’t come is because people are not giving the way God told them to give,” he said, “when you understand this, you can speed up the time.”

Who knew, the son of God was so money motivated?

There's a video of him saying this crap in the link, but I can’t seem to isolate it and post it here.

[Sparko]

This just in. And please do not call Jesse Duplantis an “evangelical” preacher.

http://ow.ly/FlIG50GgAxR?fbclid=IwAR...rqL3RpC0vWRcbY

Evangelical pastor claims that the reason Jesus hasn’t returned is because people aren’t donating enough money


If we want Jesus to come back, then apparently we’ll have to dig deep into our pockets, according to right-wing evangelical pastor Jesse Duplantis.

During a recent four-day, live TV event Victorython on the Victory channel, Duplantis made the bizarre claim that people aren’t donating to their churches generously enough, and this is the reason why Jesus has not yet made a reappearance.

“I honestly believe this — the reason why Jesus hasn’t come is because people are not giving the way God told them to give,” he said, “when you understand this, you can speed up the time.”

Who knew, the son of God was so money motivated?

There's a video of him saying this crap in the link, but I can’t seem to isolate it and post it here.

And yet he isn't donating his millions to the church. Probably because he knows when Jesus comes back, he will be hearing "I never knew you!"

[rogue06]

And now, you too can learn how to keep the devil out of your house by disposing of all your cursed objects! (And if you believe that, then I have real estate for sale on the moon!)

I'd say LeClaire's books are the cursed objects.

So you're working at SurrealEstate

[Cow Poke]

This just in. And please do not call Jesse Duplantis an “evangelical” preacher.

http://ow.ly/FlIG50GgAxR?fbclid=IwAR...rqL3RpC0vWRcbY

Evangelical pastor claims that the reason Jesus hasn’t returned is because people aren’t donating enough money


If we want Jesus to come back, then apparently we’ll have to dig deep into our pockets, according to right-wing evangelical pastor Jesse Duplantis.

During a recent four-day, live TV event Victorython on the Victory channel, Duplantis made the bizarre claim that people aren’t donating to their churches generously enough, and this is the reason why Jesus has not yet made a reappearance.

“I honestly believe this — the reason why Jesus hasn’t come is because people are not giving the way God told them to give,” he said, “when you understand this, you can speed up the time.”

Who knew, the son of God was so money motivated?

There's a video of him saying this crap in the link, but I can’t seem to isolate it and post it here.

wow

[Cow Poke]

On a side note, we have partnered with a group in Houston who has a homeless shelter, and I have been very pleased with our associaiton.

UNTIL, I asked how they got started, and the Pastor told me they were an offshoot of Osteen's ministry.

He, apparently, knew that would get a rise out of me, because he hastened to add "JOHN Osteen, not his goofy son".

When I was younger, I used to go to Pastor Conferences led by John Osteen (before he started going more 'charismatic').

[mossrose]

On a side note, we have partnered with a group in Houston who has a homeless shelter, and I have been very pleased with our associaiton.

UNTIL, I asked how they got started, and the Pastor told me they were an offshoot of Osteen's ministry.

He, apparently, knew that would get a rise out of me, because he hastened to add "JOHN Osteen, not his goofy son".

When I was younger, I used to go to Pastor Conferences led by John Osteen (before he started going more 'charismatic').

I've often heard that Joel's dad was very different from Joel. But I don't know much about him. I am sure that if John could see what his son was doing he would be very unhappy.

[Cow Poke]

I've often heard that Joel's dad was very different from Joel. But I don't know much about him. I am sure that if John could see what his son was doing he would be very unhappy.

John was solid, but as his demise was somewhat sudden, I think Dodie (his wife) went into panic mode that she was about to lose her (yes, "her") kingdom, and rushed in to try to get one of her own sons to take over. She first tried to talk an older son (either a doctor or a dentist, IIRC) to take over, but nobody else wanted it. Hence, the youngest son, Joel, became heir apparent, then heir to the throne.