Pop preachers and their heretical beliefs

[One Bad Pig]

I have questions, but I can't deny the possibility. If Abbot Aimilianos had given an open acknowledgement, the questions would not arise.

Well, devout people tend to be rather reticent regarding miracles worked through them; they'd far rather the attention be focused on God than themselves.

ETA: There are also accounts of bilocation involving Catholic saints, which is mostly what I found when I searched.

[tabibito]

Well, devout people tend to be rather reticent regarding miracles worked through them; they'd far rather the attention be focused on God than themselves.

I appreciate the sentiment, but find it difficult to justify. It smacks too much of hiding one's light under a bushel.

[One Bad Pig]

I appreciate the sentiment, but find it difficult to justify. It smacks too much of hiding one's light under a bushel.

I dunno about that. Jesus himself often admonished those he had healed to keep it hush-hush. Word has a way of getting out.

[Cow Poke]

I dunno about that. Jesus himself often admonished those he had healed to keep it hush-hush. Word has a way of getting out.

On that --- I wonder how many people Jesus told to keep quiet, and they DID, so we never heard about them.

After all, John tells us that Jesus did many things that weren't written down, and that could fill whole libraries.

[tabibito]

I dunno about that. Jesus himself often admonished those he had healed to keep it hush-hush. Word has a way of getting out.

The particular event in view would be the equivalent of Jesus keeping his part in the healing of the man who had been born blind secret from that man.

[Sparko]

God does the healing and miracles. We are just lucky if we get to be his instrument. Us bragging we healed someone would be like a typewriter claiming it wrote a novel.

[rogue06]

God does the healing and miracles. We are just lucky if we get to be his instrument. Us bragging we healed someone would be like a typewriter claiming it wrote a novel.

Merely instruments.

[tabibito]

Merely instruments.

Indeed. Of course, failing to acknowledge that God did something through us might be considered unseemly, any putative show of piety notwithstanding.

[rogue06]

Indeed. Of course, failing to acknowledge that God did something through us might be considered unseemly, any putative show of piety notwithstanding.

It's just that some of them appear to think they're a Stradivarius while others see themselves as being more like a kazoo.

[tabibito]

It's just that some of them appear to think they're a Stradivarius while others see themselves as being more like a kazoo.

No doubt there are people who claim that God personally delivers sermons through people, whether themselves or others.

Meanwhile, Jesus claimed that believers would be granted the authority to do, not that God would do things through them.

[One Bad Pig]

It's just that some of them appear to think they're a Stradivarius while others see themselves as being more like a kazoo.

Those who are truly holy tend to see themselves as the most broken; the closer one is to God, the more clearly one can see one's own faults.

[rogue06]

Those who are truly holy tend to see themselves as the most broken; the closer one is to God, the more clearly one can see one's own faults.

For the most part. but I'm severely broken in ways you can only imagine, but nobody in their right mind would ever regard me as holy.

[One Bad Pig]

For the most part. but I'm severely broken in ways you can only imagine, but nobody in their right mind would ever regard me as holy.

My older goddaughter is severely broken (she was a crack addict for several years, and her body is messed up six ways from Sunday), but God still uses her to minister to others.

[rogue06]

My older goddaughter is severely broken (she was a crack addict for several years, and her body is messed up six ways from Sunday), but God still uses her to minister to others.

[tabibito]

Those who are truly holy tend to see themselves as the most broken; the closer one is to God, the more clearly one can see one's own faults.

On the face of it, that runs counter to the concept of Theosis.
"Was broken and would still be broken but for God's intervention" seems to align more closely with the concept.

cf 1Corinthians 6:11 (among others)