Modesty

[Cerebrum123]

Actually, this thread has made me think of something else:

I like heavy metal. On occasion, I like to wear heavy metal t-shirts. To be sure, there are some shirts I won't wear (for what are probably obvious reasons--use your imagination), but there are a bunch of...rather eye-catching shirts that I like to wear. Part of the reason I like them is people's confused reaction to them. They've never seen a shirt like that before, and it confuses them. I find this amusing. Here's an example of a shirt I recently told my wife I like, and would totally wear.

If my purpose in wearing the shirt is to draw attention to myself, this would seem to make it inappropriate, right?

Please note that I'm speaking purely of myself here, and my own motivations. I don't care much what other people wear and don't concern myself with their reasons for wearing whatever it is.

at that shirt. Yeah, I don't see a problem with it if you're not wearing it to church.

[Adrift]

Actually, this thread has made me think of something else:

I like heavy metal. On occasion, I like to wear heavy metal t-shirts. To be sure, there are some shirts I won't wear (for what are probably obvious reasons--use your imagination), but there are a bunch of...rather eye-catching shirts that I like to wear. Part of the reason I like them is people's confused reaction to them. They've never seen a shirt like that before, and it confuses them. I find this amusing. Here's an example of a shirt I recently told my wife I like, and would totally wear.

If my purpose in wearing the shirt is to draw attention to myself, this would seem to make it inappropriate, right?

Please note that I'm speaking purely of myself here, and my own motivations. I don't care much what other people wear and don't concern myself with their reasons for wearing whatever it is.

I don't think there's any issue with that sort of shirt. Displaying modesty doesn't mean that you're not allowed to have a personality, or show a bit of humor.

[Zymologist]

Maybe I'm overthinking it. This thread has just been me thinking out loud.

[Catholicity]

I um grew up in the deep south so dressing up at church and dressing decently during the week was part of the requirement especially in my family. Dresses, Tights, hats or Giant Hair Bows. Everyone of the adults wore jumpers and Jean dresses and long skirts....during the week at school mom dressed us up in collared shirts and jeans or khakis for boys, I wore skorts, below the knee skirts, turtle necks, casual dresses etc.... yes it was a big deal. Now after three kids I can't stand to wear anything that show's skin, so making the attempt to get me out of knee length capris, long skirts, flowy shirts, yoga pants is basically futile. Even my swimwear has changed.

[Cow Poke]

Maybe I'm overthinking it. This thread has just been me thinking out loud.

You're allowed to do that. "How can I know what I think til I hear myself say it?"

[Obsidian]

I'm being legalistic about it?

For one thing, it's not even a rule. It's a guideline. A general principle. For another thing, it's specifically directed toward women, not men. That's because women have a tendency to overspend their husbands' money, and because women are more prone to focusing on their own physical appearance. So you're taking something that is a guideline toward women -- something that you are not -- and acting as though there is some sort of rule in it that applies to you. That seems to me like legalism.

And I believe you specifically said that the reason you dress up is not to draw attention to yourself, anyway, but rather to show respect for the institution of the church. That is not at all the womanly temptation that Paul was addressing.

[mossrose]

That's because women have a tendency to overspend their husbands' money, and because women are more prone to focusing on their own physical appearance.

I am not a women's libber by any means, but I am highly offended by your blanket statement here. My husband would be the first to disagree with you about how I am in this regard, in both examples you give, and I think you do a great many women a disservice by putting us all in the same pot.

An apology and a retraction would be very nice.

Oh, and are you married to a woman?

[Christianbookworm]

I am not a women's libber by any means, but I am highly offended by your blanket statement here. My husband would be the first to disagree with you about how I am in this regard, in both examples you give, and I think you do a great many women a disservice by putting us all in the same pot.

An apology and a retraction would be very nice.

Oh, and are you married to a woman?

I thought he sounded sexist! I think he was trying to call Peter sexist also!

[rogue06]

I am not a women's libber by any means, but I am highly offended by your blanket statement here. My husband would be the first to disagree with you about how I am in this regard, in both examples you give, and I think you do a great many women a disservice by putting us all in the same pot.

An apology and a retraction would be very nice.

Oh, and are you married to a woman?

Cover thy ankles my good woman!

[mossrose]

Cover thy ankles my good woman!

My ankles are ALWAYS covered. Otherwise my feet get cold.

[rogue06]

My ankles are ALWAYS covered. Otherwise my feet get cold.

Canuckistan. Of course!

Where even mid Summer it barely gets above the freezing level.




In that case, put thy toque on my good woman

[mossrose]

Canuckistan. Of course!

Where even mid Summer it barely gets above the freezing level.




In that case, put thy toque on my good woman

Nope. Earmuffs, maybe.

[Cow Poke]

I thought he sounded sexist! I think he was trying to call Peter sexist also!

That would be Paul, writing to Timothy, and it's not at all unusual for people to accuse Paul of being sexist.

[Christianbookworm]

That would be Paul, writing to Timothy, and it's not at all unusual for people to accuse Paul of being sexist.

The Roman Empire was sexist! Paul didn't have much to work with.

[NorrinRadd]

I am not a women's libber by any means, but I am highly offended by your blanket statement here. My husband would be the first to disagree with you about how I am in this regard, in both examples you give, and I think you do a great many women a disservice by putting us all in the same pot.

An apology and a retraction would be very nice.

Oh, and are you married to a woman?

It's ridiculous to think either sex is more materialistic than the other, just as it is ridiculous to think that either is more prone to "wrath and dissension." But, if we take guidelines such as those in 1 Tim. 2 as universal, we are led to that inference.