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  • #46
    John 14:5

    Text: (NA27):
    Transliteration (Accordance):
    Legei autō̧ Thōmas; kyrie, ouk oidamen pou hypageis; pōs dynametha tēn hodon eidenai?

    Translation (NRSV):
    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ποῦ : as indirect interrogative where.
    εἰδέναι : infinitive of know.

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    • #47
      Moderator's notice:

      Please remember to observe the stipulations set by the OP in this thread and any others in this section. Extraneous posts are liable to be removed.
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #48
        John I am so sorry for Rabinovich's comments-please know that I and many many others find your work invaluable
        E.
        The State. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

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        • #49
          Many thanks for the much appreciated moderator's notice and owner's comment above.

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          • #50
            John 14:6

            Text: (NA27):
            Transliteration (Accordance):
            Translation (NRSV):
            Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
            : the pre-eminent, article with predicate.
            εἰ μή : except.
            διά: through, by.

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            • #51
              John 14:7

              Text: (NA27):
              εἰ ἐγνώκατέ με, καὶ τὸν πατέρα μου γνώσεσθε. καὶ ἀπ᾿ ἄρτι γινώσκετε αὐτὸν καὶ ἑωράκατε αὐτόν.

              Transliteration (Accordance):
              Translation (NRSV):
              Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
              ἐγνώκατε : perfect of γινώσκω, the perfect expresses knowledge attained (cf perfect οἶδα) you know.
              γνώσεσθε : future of γινώσκω know.
              ἀπ᾿ ἄρτι : already now cf 13:19.
              ἑωράκατε : perfect of ὁράω see.

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              • #52
                John 14:8

                Text: (NA27):
                Transliteration (Accordance):
                Legei autō̧ Philippos; kyrie, deixon hēmin ton patera, kai arkei hēmin.

                Translation (NRSV):
                Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                δεῖξον : aorist imperative of δείκνυμι show.
                ἀρκεῖ : it is enough ; impersonal use of ἀρκέω suffice.

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                • #53
                  John 14:9

                  Text: (NA27):
                  Transliteration (Accordance):
                  Translation (WEB = revised ASV):
                  Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                  τοσοῦτος : so great ; of time, so long.
                  χρόνος : time, dative (for accusative) of extent.
                  εἰμί : English idiom calls for I have been.
                  ἔγνωκας : perfect of γινώσκω know.
                  ἑωρακώς : perfect participle of ὁράω see.

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                  • #54
                    John 14:10

                    Text: (NA27):
                    οὐ πιστεύεις ὅτι ἐγὼ ἐν τῷ πατρὶ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἐν ἐμοί ἐστιν; τὰ ῥήματα ἃ ἐγὼ λέγω ὑμῖν ἀπ᾿ ἐμαυτοῦ οὐ λαλῶ, ὁ δὲ πατήρ ἐν ἐμοὶ μένων ποιεῖ τὰ ἔργα αὐτοῦ.

                    Transliteration (Accordance):
                    Translation (NRSV):
                    Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own; but the Father who dwells in me does his works.

                    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                    ῥῆμα : word.
                    ἐμαυτοῦ : reflexive pronoun of the first person, ἀπ᾿ ἐμαυτοῦ of myself, on my own initiative 7:17, 28; 8:28.
                    μένων : participle of μένω dwell.

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                    • #55
                      John 14:11

                      Text: (NA27):
                      Transliteration (Accordance):
                      pisteuete moi hoti egō en tō̧ patri kai ho patēr en emoi; ei de mē, dia ta erga auta pisteuete.

                      Translation (NRSV):
                      Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; but if you do not, then believe me because of the works themselves.

                      Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                      πιστεύετε : imperative of πιστεύω ; πιστεύετέ μοι believe me!
                      ἐγὼ ἐν τῷ πατρί : (sc. εἰμί).
                      τὸ ἔργον αὐτό : the work itself.

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                      • #56
                        John 14:12

                        Text: (NA27):
                        Transliteration (Accordance):
                        Amēn amēn legō hymin, ho pisteuōn eis eme ta erga ha egō poiō kakeinos poiēsei kai meizona toutōn poiēsei, hoti egō pros ton patera poreuomai;

                        Translation (NRSV):
                        Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father.

                        Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                        πιστεύων : participle, ὁ πιστεύων εἰς ἐμέ one who believes in me.
                        κἀκεῖνος = καὶ ἐκεῖνος also that one.
                        ποιήσει : future of ποιέω do.
                        μείζων -ζονος : (comparative of μέγας great) greater, neuter plural greater things.

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                        • #57
                          John 14:13

                          Text: (NA27):
                          καὶ ὅ τι ἂν αἰτήσητε ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου τοῦτο ποιήσω, ἵνα δοξασθῇ ὁ πατὴρ ἐν τῷ υἱῷ.

                          Transliteration (Accordance):
                          kai ho ti an aitēsēte en tō̧ onomati mou touto poiēsō, hina doxasthȩ̄ ho patēr en tō̧ huiō̧.

                          Translation (NRSV):
                          I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

                          Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                          ὅ τι ἄν : with subjunctive, whatever.
                          αἰτήσητε : aorist subjunctive of αἰτέω ask.
                          ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου : in my name, i.e. in union with/in the spirit of Jesus.
                          δοξασθῇ : aorist passive subjunctive of δοξάζω glorify.

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                          • #58
                            John 14:14

                            Text: (NA27):
                            ἐάν τι αἰτήσητέ με ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου ἐγὼ ποιήσω.

                            Transliteration (Accordance):
                            ean ti aitēsēte me en tō̧ onomati mou egō poiēsō.

                            Translation (NRSV):
                            If in my name you ask me for anything, I will do it.

                            Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                            με : me [[variant omit : other manuscripts omit whole verse]].

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                            • #59
                              John 14:15

                              Text: (NA27):
                              Transliteration (Accordance):
                              Ean agapate me, tas entolas tas emas tērēsete;

                              Translation (NRSV):
                              If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

                              Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                              ἀγαπᾶτε : subjunctive (same as indicative).
                              τηρήσετε : future of τηρέω keep.

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                              • #60
                                John 14:16

                                Text: (NA27):
                                κἀγὼ ἐρωτήσω τὸν πατέρα καὶ ἄλλον παράκλητον δώσει ὑμῖν, ἵνα μεθ᾿ ὑμῶν εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα ᾖ

                                Transliteration (Accordance):
                                Translation (NRSV):
                                And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, to be with you forever.

                                Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
                                κἀγώ = καί ἐγώ and I.
                                ἐρωτήσω : future of ἐρωτάω ask.
                                παράκλητος : (< παρα-καλέω) advocate ; helper ; comforter.
                                δώσει : future of δίδωμι give.
                                εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα : for ever.
                                : subjunctive of εἰμί be.

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