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John 13-17

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:26

    Text: (NA27):
    καὶ ἐγνώρισα αὐτοῖς τὸ ὄνομά σου καὶ γνωρίσω, ἵνα ἡ ἀγάπη ἣν ἠγάπησάς με ἐν αὐτοῖς ᾖ κἀγὼ ἐν αὐτοῖς.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    kai egnōrisa autois to onoma sou kai gnōrisō, hina hē agapē hēn ēgapēsas me en autois ȩ̄ kagō en autois.

    Translation (NRSV):
    I made your name known to them, and I will make it known, so that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἐγνώρισα : aorist of γνωρίζω make known.
    γνωρίσω : future.
    ἣν : supposes a cognate accusative ἀγάπην ἀγαπάω (like, e.g., φόβον φοβέομαι): the love with which you loved me.
    : subjunctive of εἰμί (subject ἀγάπη).

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:25

    Text: (NA27):
    πάτερ δίκαιε, καὶ ὁ κόσμος σε οὐκ ἔγνω, ἐγὼ δέ σε ἔγνων, καὶ οὗτοι ἔγνωσαν ὅτι σύ με ἀπέστειλας

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    pater dikaie, kai ho kosmos se ouk egnō, egō de se egnōn, kai houtoi egnōsan hoti sy me apesteilas

    Translation (NRSV):
    Righteous Father, the world does not know you, but I know you; and these know that you have sent me.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    πάτερ δίκαιε : vocative. The force of the first καί is not clear.
    ἔγνω : aorist 3rd singular of γινώσκω know.
    ἐγὼ δέ σε ἔγνων : but I have known you (constative aorist) a parenthesis, the implication heightening the gull of the world.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:24

    Text: (NA27):
    Πάτερ, ὃ δέδωκάς μοι, θέλω ἵνα ὅπου εἰμὶ ἐγὼ κἀκεῖνοι ὦσιν μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ, ἵνα θεωρῶσιν τὴν δόξαν τὴν ἐμήν, ἣν δέδωκάς μοι ὅτι ἠγάπησάς με πρὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    Pater, ho dedōkas moi, thelō hina hopou eimi egō kakeinoi ōsin metí emou, hina theōrōsin tēn doxan tēn emēn, hēn dedōkas moi hoti ēgapēsas me pro katabolēs kosmou.

    Translation (NRSV):
    Father, I desire that those also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory, which you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ὃ δέδωκάς μοι : anticipated subject of the ἵνα clause resumed there by κἀκεῖνοι (= καὶ ἐκεῖοι).
    ἵνα : (second time) for infinitive.
    θεωρῶσιν : subjunctive of θεωρέω see.
    καταβολή : (< κατά + βάλλω) foundation.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:23

    Text: (NA27):
    ἐγὼ ἐν αὐτοῖς καὶ σὺ ἐν ἐμοί, ἵνα ὦσιν τετελειωμένοι εἰς ἕν, ἵνα γινώσκῃ ὁ κόσμος ὅτι σύ με ἀπέστειλας καὶ ἠγάπησας αὐτοὺς καθὼς ἐμὲ ἠγάπησας.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    egō en autois kai sy en emoi, hina ōsin teteleiōmenoi eis hen, hina ginōskȩ̄ ho kosmos hoti sy me apesteilas kai ēgapēsas autous kathōs eme ēgapēsas.

    Translation (NRSV):
    I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    τετελειωμένοι : perfect passive participle of τελειόω complete ; τετελειωμένοι εἰς ἕν, ἵνα literally "perfected into one that...", perfectly one, so that.
    γινώσκῃ : subjunctive (present, enduring for all time).
    ἠγάπησας : aorist of ἀγαπάω.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:22

    Text: (NA27):
    κἀγὼ τὴν δόξαν ἣν δέδωκάς μοι δέδωκα αὐτοῖς, ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν καθὼς ἡμεῖς ἕν

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    kagō tēn doxan hēn dedōkas moi dedōka autois, hina ōsin hen kathōs hēmeis hen

    Translation (NRSV):
    The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one,

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    δόξα : glory ; in this context = τὸ ὄνομα, ὁ λόγος τοῦ θεοῦ, ἡ ἀλήθεια.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:21

    Text: (NA27):
    ἵνα πάντες ἓν ὦσιν, καθὼς σύ, πάτερ, ἐν ἐμοὶ κἀγὼ ἐν σοί, ἵνα καὶ αὐτοὶ ἐν ἡμῖν ὦσιν, ἵνα ὁ κόσμος πιστεύῃ ὅτι σύ με ἀπέστειλας.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    hina pantes hen ōsin, kathōs sy, pater, en emoi kagō en soi, hina kai autoi en hēmin ōsin, hina ho kosmos pisteuȩ̄ hoti sy me apesteilas.

    Translation (NRSV):
    that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἓν : neuter of εἷς, i.e. a unity (masculine would mean "one person").
    ὦσιν : subjunctive of εἰμί be.
    πάτερ : vocative of πατήρ Father.
    πιστεύῃ : subjunctive of πιστεύω believe.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:20

    Text: (NA27):
    Οὐ περὶ τούτων δὲ ἐρωτῶ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ περὶ τῶν πιστευόντων διὰ τοῦ λόγου αὐτῶν εἰς ἐμέ

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    Ou peri toutōn de erōtō monon, alla kai peri tōn pisteuontōn dia tou logou autōn eis eme

    Translation (NRSV):
    I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    τῶν πιστευόντων : who will believe, present participle standing for future participle ; to be taken with εἰς ἐμέ.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:19

    Text: (NA27):
    καὶ ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν ἐγὼ ἁγιάζω ἐμαυτόν, ἵνα ὦσιν καὶ αὐτοὶ ἡγιασμένοι ἐν ἀληθείᾳ.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    kai hyper autōn egō hagiazō emauton, hina ōsin kai autoi hēgiasmenoi en alētheia̧.

    Translation (NRSV):
    And for their sakes I sanctify myself, so that they also may be sanctified in truth.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἁγιάζω : here consecrate = immolate.
    ὦσιν : subjunctive of εἰμί be.
    ἵνα ὦσιν καὶ αὐτοί : that they too may be.
    ἡγιασμένοι : perfect passive participle made (and kept ― perfect) holy for their God=given task.
    ἐν ἀληθείᾳ : either = ἀληθῶς [adverb, corresponding to what is really so, truly, in truth, really, actually] or ἐν τῇ ἀληθείᾳ through truth, in union with truth.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:18

    Text: (NA27):
    καθὼς ἐμὲ ἀπέστειλας εἰς τὸν κόσμον, κἀγὼ ἀπέστειλα αὐτοὺς εἰς τὸν κόσμον∑

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    kathōs eme apesteilas eis ton kosmon, kagō apesteila autous eis ton kosmon;

    Translation (NRSV):
    As you have sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἀπέστειλας : aorist of ἀποστέλλω send.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:17

    Text: (NA27):
    ἁγίασον αὐτοὺς ἐν τῇ ἀληθείᾳ∑ ὁ λόγος ὁ σὸς ἀλήθεια ἐστιν.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    hagiason autous en tȩ̄ alētheia̧; ho logos ho sos alētheia estin.

    Translation (NRSV):
    Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἁγίασον : aorist imperative of ἁγιάζω (withdraw from the profane and) consecrate to God, make holy.
    ἐν τῇ ἀληθείᾳ : through truth, in union with truth.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:16

    Text: (NA27):
    ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου οὐκ εἰσὶν καθὼς ἐγὼ οὐκ εἰμὶ ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου οὐκ εἰσὶν καθὼς ἐγὼ οὐκ εἰμὶ ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου.

    Translation (NRSV):
    They do not belong to the world, just as I do not belong to the world.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    οὐκ εἰσὶν ἐκ : they do not belong to.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:15

    Text: (NA27):
    οὐκ ἐρωτῶ ἵνα ἄρῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, ἀλλ᾿ ἵνα τηρήσῃς αὐτοὺς ἐκ τοῦ πονηροῦ.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    ouk erōtō hina arȩ̄s autous ek tou kosmou, allí hina tērēsȩ̄s autous ek tou ponērou.

    Translation (NRSV):
    I am not asking you to take them out of the world, but I ask you to protect them from the evil one.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἐρωτάω : ask, make a request.
    ἄρῃς : aorist subjunctive of αἱρέω take.
    ἐκ : (first time) in usual sense out of.
    τηρήσῃς : aorist subjunctive of τηρέω preserve, protect.
    ἐκ : (second time) for ἀπό away from.
    τοῦ πονηροῦ : genitive of either ὁ πονηρός the Evil One or τό πονηρόν evil.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:14

    Text: (NA27):
    ἐγὼ δέδωκα αὐτοῖς τὸν λόγον σου καὶ ὁ κόσμος ἐμίσησεν αὐτούς, ὅτι οὐκ εἰσὶν ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου καθὼς ἐγὼ οὐκ εἰμὶ ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    egō dedōka autois ton logon sou kai ho kosmos emisēsen autous, hoti ouk eisin ek tou kosmou kathōs egō ouk eimi ek tou kosmou.

    Translation (NRSV):
    I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they do not belong to the world, just as I do not belong to the world.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    τὸν λόγον σου : your word, technical term for the Christian message ; the disciples must remain faithful to "your name" (verse 12) because to them is entrusted the announcement of this revelation to the world.
    ἐμίσησεν : aorist of μισέω hate.
    οὐκ εἰσὶν ἐκ : they do not belong to.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:13

    Text: (NA27):
    νῦν δὲ πρὸς σὲ ἔρχομαι καὶ ταῦτα λαλῶ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἵνα ἔχωσιν τὴν χαρὰν τὴν ἐμὴν πεπληρωμένην ἐν ἑαυτοῖς.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    nyn de pros se erchomai kai tauta lalō en tō̧ kosmō̧ hina echōsin tēn charan tēn emēn peplērōmenēn en heautois.

    Translation (NRSV):
    But now I am coming to you, and I speak these things in the world so that they may have my joy made complete in themselves.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἔχωσιν : subjunctive of ἔχω have.
    χαρά : joy.
    πεπληρωμένην : full, complete, perfect passive participle of πληρόω.

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  • John Reece
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    John 17:12

    Text: (NA27):
    ὅτε ἤμην μετ᾿ αὐτῶν ἐγὼ ἐτήρουν αὐτοὺς ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί σου ᾧ δέδωκάς μοι, καὶ ἐφύλαξα, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἐξ αὐτῶν ἀπώλετο εἰ μὴ ὁ υἱὸς τῆς ἀπωλείας, ἵνα ἡ γραφὴ πληρωθῇ.

    Transliteration (Accordance):
    hote ēmēn metí autōn egō etēroun autous en tō̧ onomati sou ō̧h dedōkas moi, kai ephylaxa, kai oudeis ex autōn apōleto ei mē ho huios tēs apōleias, hina hē graphē plērōthȩ̄.

    Translation (NRSV):
    While I was with them, I protected them in your name that you have given me. I guarded them, and not one of them was lost except the one destined to be lost, so that the scripture might be fulfilled.

    Analysis (Zerwick/BDAG):
    ἤμην : imperfect of εἰμί be.
    ἐτήρουν : imperfect of τηρέω keep watch over, protect.
    ἐφύλαξα : aorist of φυλάσσω guard, keep safe.
    ἀπώλετο : aorist middle of ἀπόλλυμι be lost.
    εἰ μή : except.
    υἱὸς τῆς ἀπωλείας : son of perdition, one destined to be lost ; υἱός τινος is a Semitism expressing any kind of intimate relation to a person or thing.
    ἡ γραφή : Scripture.
    πληρωθῇ : aorist passive subjunctive of πληρόω fulfill.

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