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  • Black Lives Threaten

    This is getting out of hand.

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/0...ata-residents/

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    Last edited by Cow Poke; 09-03-2015, 01:33 PM.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    This is getting out of hand.

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/0...ata-residents/

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    If a threat from an anonymous Tweeter using the Black Lives Matter hashtag implicates the entire movement, can the same be said about the people who defended George Zimmermann, given Dylan Roof's manifesto? Or those who agree with Trump regarding immigration, given the assault on the homeless Hispanic man by two men who justified their attack by referencing him?
    "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sam View Post
      If a threat from an anonymous Tweeter using the Black Lives Matter hashtag implicates the entire movement, can the same be said about the people who defended George Zimmermann, given Dylan Roof's manifesto? Or those who agree with Trump regarding immigration, given the assault on the homeless Hispanic man by two men who justified their attack by referencing him?
      The movement sprung up because its members think you should allow blacks to beat you to death instead of shooting them in self defense. This threat alone isn't what implicates the entire movement, the movement's roots implicate it in everything, from this tweet to Dylan Roof himself, who was simply responding to an existing declaration of racial war.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sam View Post
        If a threat from an anonymous Tweeter using the Black Lives Matter hashtag implicates the entire movement, can the same be said about the people who defended George Zimmermann, given Dylan Roof's manifesto? Or those who agree with Trump regarding immigration, given the assault on the homeless Hispanic man by two men who justified their attack by referencing him?

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #5
          The question is whether that element defines the movement. A big part of deciding that would be just how pervasive such behavior is. I'm familiar with the "Pigs in a blanket" chant, which was either made by leaders of the chapter or by other protesters, depending on the source. The Bernie Sanders event was not appropriate but it's hardly something that should get put into the list of violent behavior or incitement. This tweet isn't even affiliated with a BlackLivesMatter group; it's just an anonymous Tweeter.

          We all know that we find these crackpots absolutely everywhere and there's a violent element to every single movement. The question is whether the movement's general aims and rhetoric match up with the violent element's and to what extent they do so. In the case of BlackLivesMatter, it's ridiculous to argue that the movement is at all about inciting violence against police. These things are not acceptable at all but they are no more indicative of the movement than what goes through Twitter or Reddit every single day.
          "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sam View Post
            The question is whether that element defines the movement. A big part of deciding that would be just how pervasive such behavior is. I'm familiar with the "Pigs in a blanket" chant, which was either made by leaders of the chapter or by other protesters, depending on the source. The Bernie Sanders event was not appropriate but it's hardly something that should get put into the list of violent behavior or incitement. This tweet isn't even affiliated with a BlackLivesMatter group; it's just an anonymous Tweeter.
            An interesting take considering how the news media would circle around the fringes of Tea Party rallies looking for a nut case that they could portray as a typical representative of the movement. That "Pigs in a blanket" was chanted by those holding the banner leading the march and the head of the protest was on MSNBC acknowledging that they were saying it but now after the deaths of some police officers is attempting to portray this call for murder as being merely "playful."


            I know its Fox News, which means it just must be a lie, but as you can see for
            yourself it was those leading the march who were chanting it.

            I mentioned the Bernie Sanders incident because of how the local chapter reacted when one of their leaders apologized -- with threats.

            And the issuer of the Tweet is no longer anonymous. He is Carlos Anthony Hollins age 20 from Waldorf, Maryland. It will be interested to see if he does indeed have any association with Black Lives Matter (BLM) or was he just using their name.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              This is getting out of hand.

              http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/0...ata-residents/

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              Nice - that's 15 miles from my house.
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              • #8
                Sam has never met a liberal cause he didn't like.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sam View Post
                  If a threat from an anonymous Tweeter using the Black Lives Matter hashtag implicates the entire movement...
                  Sammy, it appears you think the Chief of Police is too dumb to have done some checking as to the validity of this threat. Just like a liberal - blame the cops first.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Perhaps Jaecp will stop by to brag that he marched with these guys just like he did with the Occupy Movement.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sam View Post
                      If a threat from an anonymous Tweeter using the Black Lives Matter hashtag....
                      It appears from the La Plata Police facebook page that this "anonymous Tweeter" is no longer anonymous....

                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Sammy, it appears you think the Chief of Police is too dumb to have done some checking as to the validity of this threat. Just like a liberal - blame the cops first.
                        The validity of the threat wasn't called into question, the association with the BlackLivesMatter movement was.
                        "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sam View Post
                          The validity of the threat wasn't called into question, the association with the BlackLivesMatter movement was.
                          Last edited by Cow Poke; 09-03-2015, 04:34 PM.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            And you can read my previous posts dealing with the use of the hashtag. Don't falsely accuse people; nowhere did I "blame the cops first" or belittle the potential threat.
                            "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sam View Post
                              And you can read my previous posts dealing with the use of the hashtag. Don't falsely accuse people; nowhere did I "blame the cops first" or belittle the potential threat.
                              Let's see what your first post was....

                              Originally posted by Sam View Post
                              If a threat from an anonymous Tweeter using the Black Lives Matter hashtag implicates the entire movement, can the same be said about the people who defended George Zimmermann, given Dylan Roof's manifesto? Or those who agree with Trump regarding immigration, given the assault on the homeless Hispanic man by two men who justified their attack by referencing him?
                              Your jackassery in trying to equate a situation where the deaths of police officer are being called for, and cops, INDEED, are being targeted and killed --- and you try to equate that to....

                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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