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  • Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    OH man, Starlight, check this crazy thing out

    http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-s...exi-1603045854

    lulll
    Mountain Man's go to press source. :D
    "Instead, we argue, it is necessary to shift the debate from the subject under consideration, instead exposing to public scrutiny the tactics they [denialists] employ and identifying them publicly for what they are."

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      You really don't know what you're talking about.



      I've actually been an HR professional, and am certified in Employee Relations Law. The principle is the same as the fraternization policy in the military.

      Source: military.findlaw.com

      Fraternization in the military relates to prohibited personal relationships between military service members of different ranks and positions. Fraternization involves improper relationships, ranging from overly casual relationships to friendships to romantic relationships.

      When this occurs between officers and enlisted service members or between some other hierarchical pairing, as between a commander and an officer or enlisted soldier in her command, it can potentially undermine the chain of command, order, and discipline. Not all contact between enlisted persons and officers or subordinates and superiors is prohibited, just contact that would compromise (or have the appearance of compromising) order, discipline, and the chain of command.

      © Copyright Original Source

      Show me the law C.P. I know from personal experience that many such relationships begin at work. So show me the law that prohibits it.

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      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
        Show me the law C.P.
        It's about company policy, not "law". Apparently you don't remember or understand what you claimed.

        I know from personal experience that many such relationships begin at work.
        I don't believe anybody claimed otherwise.

        So show me the law that prohibits it.
        Companies don't make laws, Jimmy - they set policies.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Jichard View Post
          Mountain Man's go to press source. :D
          http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post248938
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • Hillary Clinton lock to win the Dem nomination"
            Says Charles Krauthammer's title in his column Saturday.
            "Unless she's indicted."
            But I never believe this Fox pundit.
            He's as evil and deceptive as George Will.
            "Clinton has no competition."
            "She remains a lousy candidate but she is an excellent debater."
            "The other three candidates hardly registered."
            See how the extremes touch? Anderson Cooper rigged the debate in favor of Clinton and against Jim Webb, and Kraut goes even farther by never mentioning Webb at all.
            Oh, this devil is clever all right. He quotes Leo Durocher.
            " 'Nice guys finish last.' Sanders will finish second, which in this case is the same thing."
            And this lie:
            "She's up against three ciphers..." even though Jim Webb got the Navy Cross as a lieutenant in Viet Nam, wrote ten books, as a Republican (that makes Webb a traitor to Kraut) under Reagan was Assistant Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy, and from 2007 to 2013 now as a Democrat was a very effective and respected Senator from Virginia--probably the best qualifications for POTUD we have ever had!
            Near the Peoples' Republic of Davis, south of the State of Jefferson (Suspended between Left and Right)

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            • Originally posted by Adam View Post
              Hillary Clinton lock to win the Dem nomination"
              Says Charles Krauthammer's title in his column Saturday.
              "Unless she's indicted."
              But I never believe this Fox pundit.
              He's as evil and deceptive as George Will.
              "Clinton has no competition."
              "She remains a lousy candidate but she is an excellent debater."
              "The other three candidates hardly registered."
              See how the extremes touch? Anderson Cooper rigged the debate in favor of Clinton and against Jim Webb, and Kraut goes even farther by never mentioning Webb at all.
              Oh, this devil is clever all right. He quotes Leo Durocher.
              " 'Nice guys finish last.' Sanders will finish second, which in this case is the same thing."
              And this lie:
              "She's up against three ciphers..." even though Jim Webb got the Navy Cross as a lieutenant in Viet Nam, wrote ten books, as a Republican (that makes Webb a traitor to Kraut) under Reagan was Assistant Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy, and from 2007 to 2013 now as a Democrat was a very effective and respected Senator from Virginia--probably the best qualifications for POTUD we have ever had!
              You're overthinking things, and not making a whole lot of sense. Jim Webb may (also) be a nice guy, but he's barely registering in the polls. You're letting your imagination run wild; there's no need to conspire to bury a candidate who's not a serious contender in the first place.
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              • Originally posted by Jichard View Post
                Mountain Man's go to press source. :D
                Still better than Gawker.

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                • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  You're overthinking things, and not making a whole lot of sense. Jim Webb may (also) be a nice guy, but he's barely registering in the polls. You're letting your imagination run wild; there's no need to conspire to bury a candidate who's not a serious contender in the first place.
                  Jim Webb struck me as a guy would would make a decent Republican president. I think the Saturday Night Live comedy sketch captured his performance at the debate pretty spot-on (and Hillary too for that matter):

                  (warning some minor bad-language, it's a comedy skit)
                  Last edited by Starlight; 10-19-2015, 06:44 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Jim Webb struck me as a guy would would make a decent Republican president. I think the Saturday Night Live comedy sketch captured his performance at the debate pretty spot-on (and Hillary too for that matter):

                    (warning some minor bad-language, it's a comedy skit)
                    From your perspective, I'm surprised that you discern any difference between the parties.
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                    • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                      From your perspective, I'm surprised that you discern any difference between the parties.

                      I don't understand that comment. There used to be a significant difference between the parties, and over the last decade or so the gulf between them has become immense.

                      It used to be that the Republicans were generally more pro-guns, pro-war, anti-abortion, pro lower-taxes-for-the-rich, anti too much social security and (non-military) government spending, anti regulation of business, pro-corruption, anti-immigrant, and anti-gay. (With the democratic party by and large taking the opposite view on most of those issues) That wasn't a platform I agreed with any part of, but it was a coherent platform that is a fairly common standard among many right-wing conservative parties around the world.

                      However, the Republican party substantially changed in the years after Reagan, and more recently with the rise of the Tea Party. The Republican party has basically gone insane and lost almost all connection with reality. It's no longer interested in governance and basically now wants to destroy all government in America, wreck the country, and invade half the rest of the world. This has led to the saner Republicans either abandoning ship in favor of the Democratic party or simply getting primaried. So someone like Jim Webb who served in the Reagan administration, is now in the Democratic party. Likewise Lincoln Chafee who spent most of his life in the Republican party abandoned ship in favor of the Democratic party because his own party moved out from under him. In other times either of them would have made a very reasonable Republican president.

                      So where there was previously a fair amount of difference between the two parties, there's now a massive amount of difference. One has gone insane, the other hasn't. Sure, from my point of view, the Democratic party is pretty right-wing at times, and I don't agree with a lot of their policies. But the difference between them and the Republicans is pretty much day and night. One pays attention to reality, and to facts, and to the real world, and comes up with policy solutions and attempts to govern. The other isn't interested in reality or facts, and lives in an imaginary world of propaganda and lies, and attempts to sabotage and defund almost every part of the government and is doing its best to destroy government, default on debt, and plunge America into another civil war, when it's not busy war-mongering as to which foreign country to invade next.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Show me the law C.P. I know from personal experience that many such relationships begin at work. So show me the law that prohibits it.
                        CRA of 1964, Title XII

                        Findlaw

                        The qpq standard so favors the employee that many, if not most, companies themselves prohibit or highly discourage employee/supervisor relationships. The law doesn't prohibit them per se, but it creates a hostile legal environment that causes many employers to do just exactly that.Rogue is incorrect to say the law prohibits it. You are just as incorrect to say that employers don't prohibit it.
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                        • Meanwhile, in the Republican primary...

                          Trump repeatedly attacks Jeb Bush for his brother letting 9/11 happen and not keeping the American people safe. (For once, surprisingly, Trump actually seems to be right on the facts. The information that has come out over time has showed that the CIA repeatedly warned the Bush administration that Bin Laden was intending to attack the US, and the Bush administration decided he was "just posturing" and decided that the real threat was Iraq, so they told the CIA to focus on Iraq, and the CIA got very frustrated with trying to repeatedly tell the non-responsive Bush officials that the threat from Bin Laden was real and serious and that his people were already in the country. If the Bush administration had taken the CIA seriously it seems highly likely 9/11 could have been prevented.)

                          Rand Paul has been told to drop out and defend his senate seat, because he can't run for senate if he's running for President, and the Republicans might lose the senate soon and need every single seat they can hold on to.

                          Ben Carson appears to be utterly obsessed (video) with Hitler and the Nazis.

                          Meanwhile, serious people are admitting Donald Trump may well actually win the Republican nomination. Trump has led in the polls for longer than the time remaining in the primaries. Trump, however, polls the worst of any of the major Republican candidates in match-ups against the Democratic candidates.
                          Last edited by Starlight; 10-20-2015, 02:37 AM.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                            CRA of 1964, Title XII

                            Findlaw

                            The qpq standard so favors the employee that many, if not most, companies themselves prohibit or highly discourage employee/supervisor relationships. The law doesn't prohibit them per se, but it creates a hostile legal environment that causes many employers to do just exactly that.Rogue is incorrect to say the law prohibits it. You are just as incorrect to say that employers don't prohibit it.
                            No, I am not wrong, apparently you didn't even read the law you cited. There is nothing in that law prohibiting affairs in the workplace, and no company can legally prohibit affairs between employees. Having an affair with an employee is not sexual harassment and is not illegal.

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              No, I am not wrong, apparently you didn't even read the law you cited. There is nothing in that law prohibiting affairs in the workplace, and no company can legally prohibit affairs between employees. Having an affair with an employee is not sexual harassment and is not illegal.
                              It's not "affairs in the workplace" so much as employee/supervisor relationships that are heavily discouraged.

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                              • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                From your perspective, I'm surprised that you discern any difference between the parties.
                                Don't forget, he's the moron who thinks that Obama is a right-leaning moderate and that Rick Santorum is a modern-day Hitler, so his view of reality is rather warped.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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