Marriage Under False Pretense - Children Suffer?

[Cow Poke]

I think this here, is the more essential issue, than "will they rush into it too quickly!" "Will they rush into it" is a tremendous concern when we're talking about a heterosexual couple, but it seems to me it's the least of worries when it comes to homosexual marriage.

Well, yeah, but.....


yesh.

[whag]

I read an interesting opinion on some random message board today. It went something like this:

Gays are a generally miserable lot. Homosexuality and deep-seated psychological problems go hand in hand (for obvious reasons), and it is extremely rare to come across someone who is gay and genuinely happy and satisfied with his life. They thought that pushing for broader social acceptance would bring them happiness, but it didn't. They thought that pushing for broader legal acceptance would bring them happiness, but it didn't. So they looked around and saw all these happy, married, heterosexual couples and thought, "Ah ha! So that's the secret! If only we could marry. Then we would truly be happy!" And so the push over the past several years has been the actions of people desperate to escape the misery of their existence, thinking that happiness, real, lasting happiness, is just a court decision away. And I'm sure they're happy today, or at least they think they are. The problem, of course, is that you can't run away from yourself, and they'll find, to their increasing frustration, that they're right back at the same, miserable condition they were decades ago when they began this crusade. And so they'll set their sights on the next target, and the whole thing will start over again.

There's no end to it because there is no magical solution that will bring happiness to homosexuals.

Well these guys sure were:

16 anti-gay activists who turned out to be gay.

[Starlight]

Gays are a generally miserable lot. Homosexuality and deep-seated psychological problems go hand in hand (for obvious reasons), and it is extremely rare to come across someone who is gay and genuinely happy and satisfied with his life. They thought that pushing for broader social acceptance would bring them happiness, but it didn't. They thought that pushing for broader legal acceptance would bring them happiness, but it didn't. So they looked around and saw all these happy, married, heterosexual couples and thought, "Ah ha! So that's the secret! If only we could marry. Then we would truly be happy!" And so the push over the past several years has been the actions of people desperate to escape the misery of their existence, thinking that happiness, real, lasting happiness, is just a court decision away. And I'm sure they're happy today, or at least they think they are. The problem, of course, is that you can't run away from yourself, and they'll find, to their increasing frustration, that they're right back at the same, miserable condition they were decades ago when they began this crusade. And so they'll set their sights on the next target, and the whole thing will start over again.

There's no end to it because there is no magical solution that will bring happiness to homosexuals.

fm93 has rightly called this out elsewhere, saying "I struggle to even begin to describe how irrational, presumptuous and insulting that is." among other apt statements. But I think it's appropriate to call out this drivel for the false and ridiculous statement that it is within this thread rather than letting it go unchallenged.

A study released earlier this year showed that gay couples are happier than straight couples on average. That is not surprising as one of the key predictors of relationship success is empathy - the ability to understand how the other person is feeling - as this allows for better conflict resolution. People who are more similar understand each other better on average, and so have happier relationships. For many years the folk-wisdom has been that "men are from mars and women are from venus" and that there are significant differences between the genders which often make communication and empathy difficult within relationships and which lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. It is therefore entirely unsurprising that people of the same gender can often understand one another better in relationships. I have heard many straight men lament the "ball and chain" that they view their wife as, and express the view that they feel gay men would have a much easier time with their marriages.

[Abigail]

fm93 has rightly called this out elsewhere, saying "I struggle to even begin to describe how irrational, presumptuous and insulting that is." among other apt statements. But I think it's appropriate to call out this drivel for the false and ridiculous statement that it is within this thread rather than letting it go unchallenged.

A study released earlier this year showed that gay couples are happier than straight couples on average. That is not surprising as one of the key predictors of relationship success is empathy - the ability to understand how the other person is feeling - as this allows for better conflict resolution. People who are more similar understand each other better on average, and so have happier relationships. For many years the folk-wisdom has been that "men are from mars and women are from venus" and that there are significant differences between the genders which often make communication and empathy difficult within relationships and which lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. It is therefore entirely unsurprising that people of the same gender can often understand one another better in relationships. I have heard many straight men lament the "ball and chain" that they view their wife as, and express the view that they feel gay men would have a much easier time with their marriages.

While things like this become more and more frequent the credibility of anything academics or their statistics say is going to get less and less. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mes-first.html

[Cerebrum123]

Or as in my case having come to the decision to late to have any.

[Mountain Man]

Interesting. Would you please give references to the literature?

As I said, it was somebody's opinion that I happened across on another message board, so I'm not sure what "literature" you're referring to. However, there are numerous studies pertaining to the mental health of homosexuals, although these days, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find ones that don't start with the premise that homosexuality is perfectly normal and healthy, and therefore any mental health problems the homosexual might suffer have external causes, such as someone telling them that homosexuality is a sin.

[Mountain Man]

Well these guys sure were:

16 anti-gay activists who turned out to be gay.

And this is intended to prove what, exactly?

[Mountain Man]

A study released earlier this year showed that gay couples are happier than straight couples on average.

Yes, and speaking of studies that white wash the facts and assume their conclusions before the study even begins...

"The study, funded by the Economic and Science Research Council, found that couples without children were generally likely to be happier than parents."

It would be interesting to see how the study defined "happiness".

[Cow Poke]

And this is intended to prove what, exactly?

Maybe it proves that there's something wrong with the brains of homosexuals that causes them to become Republican anti-homosexual advocates, trying to prevent themselves from acting out!

(feel free to add sarcasm tags, or whatever )