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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostNo. I wouldn't be impressed with him. The guy is a grade-A loser. He got beat down by Michael, and kicked out of the very grace of God for pride of all things. Tried to kill the Messiah, and failed. Thought he was being clever by offering the kingdoms of the world to that same Messiah, and failed. And finally got the rug pulled out from under him by crucifying the Lord of Glory. He's defeated, and doesn't even know it.
One of my favorite passages is from the Gospel According to Jesse:
"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
Jesus said to him, "Are you high right now?""Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
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Originally posted by seer View PostFirst of all the US was rather multicultural, but still largely Christian and did just fine.And you don't think secularism is divisive?
Nonsense. And in your world all that matters is social cohesion, and religion certainly can offer that - and has.Tass, is it the Christians who are imposing speech codes on campus? And Political Correctness in general? Who is telling the Christian baker that if he doesn't make a wedding cake for a homosexual marriage that he will face the law?But like you made clear, there is no problem with totalitarianism, like with the higher primates, if it brings social cohesion.
Really! This largely Christian nation saved the world from Nazism, Communism and Japanese Imperialism. And if we wanted to, we could have kept Germany, most of the Continent of Europe, and Japan. But what did we do - we gave it all back. We just kept a little land for the graves of our soldiers and Marines.
Believe me Tass bro, when Islam comes to your door you Secularists will not have the will or the ability to resist. This is already happening in Europe where Political Correctness won't even let them rightly define the Muslim problem. Where sharia law is being allowed in more and more areas - especially in France.Yes just like the liberals do not permit dissent.The only difference is that you guys don't have complete control - yet.
Wait - I thought all our behavior was predetermined?
Originally posted by seer View PostSo if multiculturalism and diversity undermine social cohesion then they are bad things - correct?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostNo matter how intelligent Singer may be there is no valid justification for this sort of murdering one human being (of any age) to improve the well-being of another.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
Oh, I thought you were opposed to “imposing speech codes on campus and Political Correctness in general”…as per above. You mean its OK when Christians do it? Typical Christian double standards.
Certainly, IF they undermine social cohesion but there's no reason why they should, except in totalitarian societies.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sam View Post<turns around, sees the torches and pitchforks>
My, my, but TWeb is judgy today.
Being a fan of a person, or a person's thought process, does not constitute an agreement with that person or that person's thought process. Singer has compelling arguments and he's an honest advocate of those arguments. That's commendable in a world where many people lack both compelling arguments and honest apologies."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIn Jewish law human life begins at birth
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostJesus, as a Jew, would have not thought this way. In Jewish law human life begins at birth, that is, at the time when the child is more than halfway emerged from the mother's body. Thus there is no "murder of a human being" in the womb. An unborn child has the status of "potential human life" and while potential human life is valuable, and may not be terminated casually, it does not have as much value as a life in existence."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSo despite the fact that Jesus frequently challenged the rules and beliefs of the Jewish leaders, you know, for a fact, that Jesus agrees with you about abortion because well he was a Jew and he must have agreed with your about abortion, even when he challenged the Jewish leaders and their teachings rather frequently. I sure hope that made more sense in your head than when you said it out loud.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBut, Lpix, when the Jewish leaders were following Jewish law, preparing to stone that prostitute, didn't Jesus jump right in there and yell "hand me a rock!""The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostOf course, right along with how he agreed with not talking to a women by himself or how he didn't eat with sinners. He was obviously a great follower of the Jewish laws of the time and the Jews loved him and love him to this very day!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWhenever Christians don’t get their own way they whine about persecution, e.g. attempting to disseminate religion or pseudo-science on publicly funded campuses, or attempting to deny citizens their full civil rights.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAgain Tass, who are the ones that are enforcing speech codes of college campuses? Who invented Political Correctness? These things are designed to LIMIT speech. Who are the ones that would force by law a Christian to participate in a Gay wedding by making a cake or taking photos. When absolutely NO HARM came to the Gay couples in question. Who has now invented "micro-aggressions" - again in an attempt to LIMIT speech. You leftists are are control freaks - who knows where it will stop.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostJesus, as a Jew, would have not thought this way. In Jewish law human life begins at birth, that is, at the time when the child is more than halfway emerged from the mother's body. Thus there is no "murder of a human being" in the womb. An unborn child has the status of "potential human life" and while potential human life is valuable, and may not be terminated casually, it does not have as much value as a life in existence.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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