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  • #76
    False imprisonment during an arrest and being transferred to jail. That ought to be interesting.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Epoetker View Post
      Also, your posts seem to indicate that you've been reading a certain unacceptable duck's tweets.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #78
        There was another prisoner back there who was not injured, so how do they say it was the ride that killed him?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          False imprisonment during an arrest and being transferred to jail. That ought to be interesting.
          Apparently, there was no probable cause to arrest him in the first place. He was running from the police, which by itself is not a crime.

          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          There was another prisoner back there who was not injured, so how do they say it was the ride that killed him?
          For one thing, he didn't display a sign of the injury prior to entering the wagon. For another, the coroner matched his injury to a bolt in the wagon.
          Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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          • #80
            So, any day now, we can expect the good people of Baltimore to produce the thugs who smashed windows, assault shop owners, stole stuff, burned cars and buildings, and caused general mayhem.

            After all, they are DETERMINED to have justice!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              So, any day now, we can expect the good people of Baltimore to produce the thugs who smashed windows, assault shop owners, stole stuff, burned cars and buildings, and caused general mayhem.

              After all, they are DETERMINED to have justice!
              They found the thug!


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              • #82
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                If he was hurt by a rough ride I don't see how the get to murder in the second degree.
                Not familiar with the murder laws, but if it was a 'rough ride' they were surely knowingly doing an action that could cause minor to grievous harm.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
                  The charges (as listed by CNN):


                  Officer Garrett E. Miller

                  1) Assault/second degree
                  2) Assault/second degree
                  3) Misconduct in office
                  4) Misconduct in office
                  5) False imprisonment


                  Sgt. Alicia D. White

                  1) Manslaughter (involuntary)
                  2) Assault/second degree
                  3) Misconduct in office


                  Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr. (the driver)

                  1) Second degree depraved heart murder
                  2) Manslaughter (involuntary)
                  3) Assault/second degree
                  4) Manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence)
                  5) Manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence)
                  6) Misconduct in office


                  Officer William G. Porter

                  1) Manslaughter (involuntary)
                  2) Assault/second degree
                  3) Misconduct in office


                  Lt. Brian W. Rice

                  1) Manslaughter (involuntary)
                  2) Assault/second degree
                  3) Assault/second degree
                  4) Misconduct in office
                  5) Misconduct in office
                  6) False imprisonment


                  Officer Edward M. Nero

                  1) Assault/second degree
                  2) Assault/second degree
                  3) Misconduct in office
                  4) Misconduct in office
                  5) False imprisonment
                  Are they all white officers?
                  That's what
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    Are they all white officers?
                    That seems to be the one piece of information that is being carefully withheld.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #85
                      This is really sad -- Black Police Officers are having to defend their fellow officers against the "witch hunt" of the black leadership of Baltimore and Maryland. A black officer from the Baltimore Police Union is denouncing the travesty of the "rush to judgment" of the black prosecutor. Several other upper level black police officials are expressing dismay at the speed with which prosecution is being executed.

                      Sheriff David Clarke says this is George Zimmerman and Duke LaCrosse all over again.

                      Source: BizPac

                      Sheriff David Clarke told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly Thursday that he would have defied any order to “stand down” to rioters, such as the one that reportedly came from Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake.

                      © Copyright Original Source



                      He says this is political activism, not justice.
                      Last edited by Cow Poke; 05-01-2015, 03:14 PM.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #86
                        Spinal injury would cause the coma. He was mishandled somehow.
                        A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
                        George Bernard Shaw

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          "rush..."
                          Like this one?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            They found the thug!



                            But we have been recently informed that the word "thug" is racist.

                            Baltimore City Councilman Carl Stokes (D) thinks that use of the word "thug" to describer the rioters and looters who rampaged through Baltimore Monday night is code word for the n-word (and uses it). He proclaimed on CNN, after anchor Erin Burnett kind of defended the use of the word to describe the violent looters who injured something like a hundred police officers:
                            "Come on? So calling them thugs-- just call them niggers. Just call them niggers. No! We don't have to call them by names such as that. We don't have to do that. That is exactly what we have set them to. No, when you say come on, come on what? You wouldn't call your child a thug if they should do something that would not be what you would expect them to do."

                            To her credit Burnett wasn't intimidated and didn't back down politely replying
                            " Look, I respect your point of view. I would hope that I would call my son a thug if he ever did such a thing."

                            Over on MSNBC, Alex Wagner discussed the exchange between Burnett and Stokes. One of the guests, Brittney Cooper of Salon proclaimed that that "thug" is "rooted in a racialized understanding of black people" whining that
                            "when are we going to have a language to talk about the systemic violence that white folks do in the name of anti-blackness and white supremacy in this country? We don't have a language for that."

                            Yesterday, over at Fox News, Megan Kelly interviewed Jamal Harrison Bryant the pastor of the Empowerment Temple AME Church in Baltimore who continued the meme when he asserted that society has "colorized" the word "thug."

                            Over at Time magazine, political commentator and linguist John McWhorter V confusingly tries to straddle the fence by claiming that the complaint that "thug" is equivalent to the n-word but doesn't want it to be characterized as suchThug: The Evolution Of A Racist Code Word"

                            The unnamed author lectures his/her readers that
                            Thug, a word once used by a sub-set of a minority community to describe itself, was suddenly being used by an elite, mostly white, mostly wealthy class to tar the entirety of a minority community. A word that was, in a sense empowering, was now being used as a shorthand for 'black people doing things we disapprove of.' Historically, there have been other words used for that same purpose. That 'thug' doesn't have as long a history of obvious racism as some other words does not make its new and unfortunate meaning any less racist."

                            Interestingly, in comments made by Obama about the Baltimore rioting he used the word "thugs" to describe the actions of the more violent participants leading to criticism. For instance Sunny Hostin, a legal analyst over at CNN scolded Obama for daring to call Baltimore rioters "thugs who tore up the place":

                            Rawlings-Blake now uses the term "misguided young people" instead of "thugs."

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                              Like this one?


                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              ...While "our side" is labeling this as "dirty tricks", to be honest, what Lt. Dan Patrick did could just as easily be seen as "dirty tricks" by their side. (he had suspended the Senate rules)

                              Both sides are using whatever political "tricks" available to them - the conservatives to speed it up, and the liberals to slow it down.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                But we have been recently informed that the word "thug" is racist.
                                Doesn't that imply an acceptance of the notion that black people are more likely to act as thugs than whites?
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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