They Are Offically Mad Dogs....

[seanD]

I agree. This is why it is common for liberals and academics to emphasise that they are not claiming all police are racist, but rather saying that the system as a whole has race-based outcomes.

As I pointed out in the thread on Critical Race Theory, that particular theory "argues that social problems are influenced and created more by societal structures and cultural assumptions than by individual and psychological factors." So it is not a matter of saying that each and every white officer hates blacks and is racist and shoots them at every opportunity - that would be an "individual and psychological" factor. What you lay out in the following paragraph would be an example of the cultural assumptions, that are the sort of society-wide explanations that academics and liberals tend to be interested in:
While this is an interesting theory, and could explain some of the data, anecdotally I've got reason to think that the general behavior is the opposite to what you describe: That black people in the US know white cops are a bit trigger-happy, so they know they've got to make a huge effort to be extra meek and extra compliant when around white cops. Whereas white people have the belief that cops aren't going to hurt them, so I've seen videos of white people getting up in cops faces and screaming at them, with no consequences.

Only problem with your theory is the visual evidence that disproves your theory. We know from video evidence blacks don't cooperate with white cops, hence the reason, in most cases, they end up getting hurt or shot.

[Starlight]

This proves "race is an important determinant of police use of force" but it doesn't prove white cops are using deadly force because they're racist.

I agree. This is why it is common for liberals and academics to emphasise that they are not claiming all police are racist, but rather saying that the system as a whole has race-based outcomes.

As I pointed out in the thread on Critical Race Theory, that particular theory "argues that social problems are influenced and created more by societal structures and cultural assumptions than by individual and psychological factors." So it is not a matter of saying that each and every white officer hates blacks and is racist and shoots them at every opportunity - that would be an "individual and psychological" factor. What you lay out in the following paragraph would be an example of the cultural assumptions, that are the sort of society-wide explanations that academics and liberals tend to be interested in:

blacks are going to view white cops as the enemy and thus be more belligerent when they confront white cops and less likely to cooperate. If you're a black person, who wants to cooperate with a white racist cop? Then it becomes a vicious loop. White cops become more belligerent when they confront blacks because of past experiences.

While this is an interesting theory, and could explain some of the data, anecdotally I've got reason to think that the general behavior is the opposite to what you describe: That black people in the US know white cops are a bit trigger-happy, so they know they've got to make a huge effort to be extra meek and extra compliant when around white cops. Whereas white people have the belief that cops aren't going to hurt them, so I've seen videos of white people getting up in cops faces and screaming at them, with no consequences.

[seer]

Basically, white cops became super trigger-happy when they went into all-black areas.

Perhaps white cops are just more fearful in black communities.

A new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings, which holds that white officers are engaged in an epidemic of racially biased shootings of black men. . The more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that members of that racial group will be shot by a police officer. In fact, if there is a bias in police shootings after crime rates are taken into account, it is against white civilians, the study found.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...ore-shootings/

Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings

We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. Instead, race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

[Starlight]

Re-read. Your study doesn't address the same topic. The study I posted deals with the use of force based on the race of the civilian. The study you posted deals with the use of force based on the race of the officer.

Read more carefully. The study I posted analyses both the race of the officer and the racial composition of the neighbourhood the event took place in

[seanD]

A more recent study, out this year, says differently:

This proves "race is an important determinant of police use of force" but it doesn't prove white cops are using deadly force because they're racist. When liberal propagandists are convincing blacks on a national level that white racist cops are indiscriminately hunting them down for no reason other than they're black, blacks are going to view white cops as the enemy and thus be more belligerent when they confront white cops and less likely to cooperate. If you're a black person, who wants to cooperate with a white racist cop? Then it becomes a vicious loop. White cops become more belligerent when they confront blacks because of past experiences.

[CivilDiscourse]

A more recent study, out this year, says differently:

Re-read. Your study doesn't address the same topic. The study I posted deals with the use of force based on the race of the civilian. The study you posted deals with the use of force based on the race of the officer.

[Starlight]

https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/f...eo16_fryer.pdf

A more recent study, out this year, says differently:

[Starlight]

Protesters reportedly shouting slogans like "Death to the police!" showed up to the Los Angeles area hospital treating two law enforcement officers who were ambushed and shot on Saturday.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/protester...uties-ambushed

It goes without saying that I utterly condemn the behavior of these specific protesters if it is anything close to what is being reported here (not that I would trust Fox News to accurately report that the sky was blue).

[CivilDiscourse]

I think you should put on blackface for a week or two, and see how you get on.

https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/f...eo16_fryer.pdf

[firstfloor]

Evidence?

[Ronson]

I thought you wanted to know why blacks and whites get shot to death by the police at different rates! To put it another way; blacks are more accustomed than whites to being victims of police violence, and therefore they surrender more readily, before they are shot. But it probably, if you are right, improves their chances.

Evidence?

[seanD]

I thought you wanted to know why blacks and whites get shot to death by the police at different rates! To put it another way; blacks are more accustomed than whites to being victims of police violence, and therefore they surrender more readily, before they are shot. But it probably, if you are right, improves their chances.

That is such utter bullcrap. They experience more police brutality because they resist more. And they likely resist more because of the false mentality that they're victims of police racism.

[firstfloor]

What an absolutely disgusting and racist thing to say...

I thought you wanted to know why blacks and whites get shot to death by the police at different rates! To put it another way; blacks are more accustomed than whites to being victims of police violence, and therefore they surrender more readily, before they are shot. But it probably, if you are right, improves their chances.

[Electric Skeptic]

That's leftist mentality. Not surprising one bit.

You wouldn't know the "leftist mentality" if it bit you.

[Leonhard]

The word "evil" gets overused sometimes but it certainly applies here.

There's certainly some malicious intent there.