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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFunny how these "troubled police departments" are all in cities run strictly by Democrats for several decades, and yet somehow "conservatives" are stymieing reform.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSean has always been pretty adamant about that - not breaking up posts, snipping, etc.... I usually find it annoying, HOWEVER, then I see these long broken up exchanges where you kinda get lost in the "he said / she said" because there's almost a response at every point.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's like trying to have a conversation with someone who interrupts you after every sentence.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's like trying to have a conversation with someone who interrupts you after every sentence.
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Originally posted by whag View PostThat's your problem, not mine. Point-by-point response is traditionally how discourse plays out, especially in a forum. What you did was a lazy hand wave.
Prior to Floyd-triggered unrest, calls for police reform were subtle but met with conservative invective. There's no pleasing the right who'd obviously rather not talk about police abuse at all. Unrest has forced you to address the problem by saying "throw more money at it." Too late for that now.
You cited an article showing black citizens are more sensible than liberal media portrays and want continued police presence. Fine. Yet you're worried a leaderless organization of liberal white women (if we're to believe you) will override black votes against police abolition. You can't have it both ways by saying blacks are savvy concerned citizens but are too dumb to see Biden's ruse.
What you SHOULD be acknowledging is that black population is largely wise to Biden's and Trump's manipulation of them and, like all Americans, are stuck between choosing fecal sandwich and vomit casserole.Last edited by seanD; 08-06-2020, 06:02 PM.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostGee, who would have guessed? And don't try and say BLM advocates aren't pushing for this because they are. What's even more disturbing is you have mayors and city council folks actually pursing these ideas (and I believe in some cities they've actually cut police budgets).
Defund police is a complete and total sham. People of color don't want to defund the police. Logically it makes NO sense, and it isn't collectively what the people want. It's primarily an MSM, white liberal, and most likely upper class black narrative. So if it's not what the people want based on polling data, God only knows why they're pushing it. I can't explain it, maybe some of you can.
80% of black folks either want the same amount of police presence in their communities or want more. Percentage is almost the same for Hispanics.
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They keep talking about hiring social workers to handle non-violent situations, but as any police officer will tell you, a non-violent situation can unexpectedly turn violent in the blink of an eye.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostWhy does reform require more money, not less?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostWhy does reform require more money, not less?
Originally posted by seanD View PostHiring more police so cops aren't stressed and overworked, which requires MORE funding, not less. Special ongoing training sessions and community outreach, which requires MORE funding, not less. Perhaps a more stringent vetting process before cops are hired and closer monitoring during their careers, which requires MORE funding, not less.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFunny how these "troubled police departments" are all in cities run strictly by Democrats for several decades, and yet somehow "conservatives" are stymieing reform.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostI vote for less time in my neighborhood. When there is no crime to speak of, cops set up speed traps at nearly every intersection.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThey keep talking about hiring social workers to handle non-violent situations, but as any police officer will tell you, a non-violent situation can unexpectedly turn violent in the blink of an eye.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostWhy does reform require more money, not less?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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