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  • #16
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Even weaker, maybe a 2?
    Is that all ya got, Jim? Juvenile responses?

    Get well.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Is that all ya got, Jim? Juvenile responses?

      Get well.
      Tit for tat CP.

      Back down to a 2. You need to try harder.
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • #18
        Does Florida practice physical distancing, and use hand sanitizers and a lot of hand washing? Are groups larger than 10 disallowed? And other reasonable precautions?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          Tit for tat CP.

          Back down to a 2. You need to try harder.
          Jim, why would I care about a rating from you?
          But, please feel free to play your stupid games.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Jim, why would I care about a rating from you?
            But, please feel free to play your stupid games.
            Keep trying - you might figure it out one day
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              Does Florida practice physical distancing, and use hand sanitizers and a lot of hand washing? Are groups larger than 10 disallowed? And other reasonable precautions?
              Officially they do encourage these things.

              https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/

              They discourage large gatherings (250 or more) but I don't see on that site that actually enforces anything in terms of crowd size.

              This would indicate they are trying to enforce restruant/bar guidelines which are 50% occupancy indoors etc. Given how out of control this is in Florida, they just aren't doing even close to enough to turn it back.

              https://www.clickorlando.com/news/lo...ng-guidelines/
              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • #22
                Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                Rogue,

                States that opened too early are seeing surges. The only states not seeing surges are those with stringent controls and that are vigorously tracking this disease. Likewise countries in Europe.

                This is a virus. It behaves according to natural law. We must stop trying to politicize it, we must act according to the best scientific knowledge we have. And we must all work together to keep this thing at bay till we have meaningful treatments.
                Funny how you keep saying "we need to stop politicizing it" when a conservative points out how the spikes are not the administrations fault but something done by the democrats (like the riots), but it is fine for you to politicize it by blaming all the deaths and spikes on Trump. Why don't you follow your own advice and drop the double standard?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  Is the best you can do is silly cartoons and divisive name calling in response to the pandemic? Your description of the COVID-19 as Chicom reflects your extreme right caveman mentality
                  You appear to have successfully "nailed" the tactic of some correspondents in resorting to puerility when they are unable to offer serious comment. Perhaps he also thinks this virus was concocted by the fiendish Dr Fu Manchu in one of his underground secret laboratories.
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    No dipsy doodle. I can provide the director of the CDC stating that the organization thinks that what caused the recent outbreak in the South wasn't because of opening things up too soon but rather likely because a bunch of plague carriers came down here and spread it around.

                    It is apparent that you are incapable of addressing that so you whine like a baby and seek to distract and deflect attention away from it.
                    Caveat: In your second sentence your use of the word "thinks".

                    Given that science is running to keep up with this virus it is unsurprising if various institutions have, in recent months, made comments, or offered opinions, that have since been revised in the light of new evidence/research.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      No dipsy doodle. I can provide the director of the CDC stating that the organization thinks that what caused the recent outbreak in the South wasn't because of opening things up too soon but rather likely because a bunch of plague carriers came down here and spread it around.
                      Leaving beaches open during a holiday weekend is the kind of irresponsibility you're trying to dismiss.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                        You appear to have successfully "nailed" the tactic of some correspondents in resorting to puerility when they are unable to offer serious comment.
                        so, this "observation" is followed up with a silly comment....

                        Perhaps he also thinks this virus was concocted by the fiendish Dr Fu Manchu in one of his underground secret laboratories.
                        Welcome back!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                          Does Florida practice physical distancing, and use hand sanitizers and a lot of hand washing? Are groups larger than 10 disallowed? And other reasonable precautions?
                          It's obviously a mixed bag; some citizens do, but some do not. Southern states in general have resisted common-sense mitigation efforts more than northern states.

                          I have no doubt that governmental irresponsibility is part of the reason for Florida becoming the leading viral hot-spot in the US. I'm equally positive that the irresponsibility of citizens plays a part as well - including northern beach combers as well as Floridians themselves...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            Funny how you keep saying "we need to stop politicizing it" when a conservative points out how the spikes are not the administrations fault but something done by the democrats (like the riots), but it is fine for you to politicize it by blaming all the deaths and spikes on Trump. Why don't you follow your own advice and drop the double standard?
                            No Sparko. The Federal response to this virus has failed in nearly every way. And the reason is because those leading have ignored, lied about, or othwise corrupted the science of the situation. Trump himself is as anti-science as they come and has at every single turn refused to yield to what the CDC, Fauci, Birx and others have repeatedly said about what needs to be done. That is why things are totally screwed up right now.

                            What I am calling the politization of this is ANY distortion of the science itself for political purposes. Doesn't matter which party, or what ideology. But Trump himself has repeatedly and purposefully ignored and distorted and flat out lied about the science itself. That is an objective evaluation, it has nothing to do with politics.


                            Scientific advice: shut down till the virus spread has been reduced to managable levels

                            Trump response: lack luster, dragging his feet all the way, and pushing without regard to the science to reopen long before we had come anywhere near taming the spread.

                            Result: Partial implementation nationwide, Rebound and relapse, to the point we are adding cases more than twice as fast as when we instituted the first shutdown, the squandering of great public sacrifice and more than a Trillion dollars in aid.

                            ----

                            Scientific advice: TEST, TEST, TEST. Then contact trace.

                            Trump response: again, lack luster, slow, dragging his feet, and a continuous and unrelenting pretense that testing itself is making things bad, even bragging he asked his people to slow testing down.

                            Result: we still are way behind on testing, delays are 3 to 7 DAYS, far too long to allow effective contact tracing (which is impossible anyway due to the number of cases)

                            ---

                            Scientific advice: Wear masks, social distance, avoid large gatherings

                            Trump response: refuse to wear masks, even where it is the law. Hold rallies where social distancing recommendations and mask wearing are ignored and rebuffed and in areas suffering from significant explosions of transmission and infection

                            Result: infections in his own secret service and in the communities where the rallies were held, general public hostility towards mask wearing and public health safety by those that are in his 'base'.
                            Last edited by oxmixmudd; 07-17-2020, 09:31 AM.
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              so, this "observation" is followed up with a silly comment....



                              Welcome back!
                              Referring to this virus as Chicom is particularly silly, do you not think? A virus has no passport.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                                Referring to this virus as Chicom is particularly silly, do you not think? A virus has no passport.
                                Well,

                                A) It did, indeed, originate in China and,
                                2) It's no sillier than calling the virus "Covid-45".
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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