Trump/Biden polls: significant new development

[Whateverman]

Fox News released a poll today, rated A- by FiveThirtyEight, which has Biden +8. Trump appeared on Fox News Sunday today, and he was not pleased with the poll. In Trump's words:

Trump also claimed that his campaign has internal polls showing him

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-im-not-losing

He looked/sounded unhinged in that Fox interview...

[Reepicheep]

He looked/sounded unhinged in that Fox interview...

I'm watching the interview right now. I'm pleased that Chris Wallace isn't pulling any punches. They're still talking about coronavirus, I assume polling comes up later in the interview.

[Whateverman]

I'm pleased that Chris Wallace isn't pulling any punches.

Yup. I give Wallace high marks for the interview in general.

[Reepicheep]

He looked/sounded unhinged in that Fox interview...

Excellent interview. Even the Biden campaign liked it. According to Fox News, Biden's deputy campaign manager had the following to say about the interview:

"Trump lurched from smear to smear, all while being forcefully corrected on most, including the lie that Joe Biden wouldn't keep the American people safe and supports defunding the police - which has been fact checked into oblivion over the past month. At the very same time, new polling from The Washington Post and ABC News today showed that Joe Biden has a 9 point lead with voters when it comes to dealing with crime and safety. The Trump smears aren't working."

I'd really like to see Biden appear on the show and go through a similar grilling.

[Whateverman]

Excellent interview. Even the Biden campaign liked it. According to Fox News, Biden's deputy campaign manager had the following to say about the interview:

"Trump lurched from smear to smear, all while being forcefully corrected on most, including the lie that Joe Biden wouldn't keep the American people safe and supports defunding the police - which has been fact checked into oblivion over the past month. At the very same time, new polling from The Washington Post and ABC News today showed that Joe Biden has a 9 point lead with voters when it comes to dealing with crime and safety. The Trump smears aren't working."

I'd really like to see Biden appear on the show and go through a similar grilling.

Absolutely!

[JimL]

Excellent interview. Even the Biden campaign liked it. According to Fox News, Biden's deputy campaign manager had the following to say about the interview:

"Trump lurched from smear to smear, all while being forcefully corrected on most, including the lie that Joe Biden wouldn't keep the American people safe and supports defunding the police - which has been fact checked into oblivion over the past month. At the very same time, new polling from The Washington Post and ABC News today showed that Joe Biden has a 9 point lead with voters when it comes to dealing with crime and safety. The Trump smears aren't working."

The most interesting question and answer in the interview to me was when Trump was asked if he would accept the results of the election. He said he didn't know, he would, or in other words we would, have to wait and see. I think that if the election is close and he loses, he'll claim a rigged election and he'll have to be dragged out of there kickiing and screaming. He needs to be crushed, not just beaten.

I'd really like to see Biden appear on the show and go through a similar grilling.

I'd be all for that, but I'd like to see Trump interviewed by say, Rachel Maddow or even conservative Joe Scarborough as well. I doubt that'll ever happen though.

[Watermelon]

I wonder how effective the Lincoln project has been. They make great ads.

[EvoUK]

The most interesting question and answer in the interview to me was when Trump was asked if he would accept the results of the election. He said he didn't know, he would, or in other words we would, have to wait and see. I think that if the election is close and he loses, he'll claim a rigged election and he'll have to be dragged out of there kickiing and screaming. He needs to be crushed, not just beaten.

Yes, I've seen this as well and given that he's already laying the groundwork for claiming that the election was 'rigged' it is not surprising. I mean, if the result is not close he'll claim fraud and kick and scream and be a big cry baby, but he'll go in the end. It's if the election is close in a lot of swing states where the real trouble will begin. He'll kick his base into action and begin filing all sorts of lawsuits to try to intimidate those doing recounts and such, plus try to get the supreme court to force Biden to Concede Ala Bush/Gore.

I believe his usual apologists on here have claimed that'll never happen, and if the 'worst' happens and Trump does lose he'll of course leave peaceably and we're being daft for thinking otherwise. I need to find the thread where this was said so that if it does happen they can explain away why what they said a few months ago doesn't apply now.

I'll remind everyone that Trump disputed the election that he won!

[Reepicheep]

The most interesting question and answer in the interview to me was when Trump was asked if he would accept the results of the election...

I'd have to say that virtually the entire interview was interesting.

One particularly bizarre part of the interview was when Trump was bragging about his score on the mental acuity test he took. In response to Chris Wallace's claim that the questions weren't very hard, Trump said:

"The first few questions are easy. But I'll bet you couldn't even answer the last five questions. I bet you couldn't, they get very hard."

Below are the last five questions on the exam, which Trump claimed Wallace couldn't answer:

(1) What month is it?

(2) What year is it?

(3) What day of the week is it?

(4) What place are you in (i.e., the room, building, etc.)?

(5) What city are you in?

[Whateverman]

I'd have to say that virtually the entire interview was interesting.

One particularly bizarre part of the interview was when Trump was bragging about his score on the mental acuity test he took. In response to Chris Wallace's claim that the questions weren't very hard, Trump said:

"The first few questions are easy. But I'll bet you couldn't even answer the last five questions. I bet you couldn't, they get very hard."

Below are the last five questions on the exam, which Trump claimed Wallace couldn't answer:

(1) What month is it?

(2) What year is it?

(3) What day of the week is it?

(4) What place are you in (i.e., the room, building, etc.)?

(5) What city are you in?

There is going to be at least one genuinely-positive aspect to Trump's legacy:

He's going to have helped comedians stay employed and kept audiences laughing for decades...

[Bill the Cat]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...orse-than-pigs

Biden campaign staffer mocked cops as worse than 'pigs,' called for defunding police

A supervising video producer for Joe Biden's presidential campaign tweeted a meme in June that urged people to stop calling the police "pigs" -- but only because unlike the police, pigs are "highly intelligent and empathetic animals who would never racially profile you."

The videographer, Sara Pearl, also retweeted a user's comment that while "pigs are sweet, intelligent and compassionate," police officers are "monsters" who "don't deserve to be called pigs."
On June 1, Pearl tweeted simply, "#DefundPolice." Days later, she said Buffalo's police department should be "defunded immediately."

The Biden campaign did not reply to Fox News' request for comment, although the campaign confirmed it received the request for comment. Fox News also reached out to Pearl for comment. Pearl did not reply, but she deleted all of these tweets shortly afterward.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ed-from-police

[Whateverman]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...orse-than-pigs

Biden campaign staffer mocked cops as worse than 'pigs,' called for defunding police

A supervising video producer for Joe Biden's presidential campaign tweeted a meme in June that urged people to stop calling the police "pigs" -- but only because unlike the police, pigs are "highly intelligent and empathetic animals who would never racially profile you."

The videographer, Sara Pearl, also retweeted a user's comment that while "pigs are sweet, intelligent and compassionate," police officers are "monsters" who "don't deserve to be called pigs."
On June 1, Pearl tweeted simply, "#DefundPolice." Days later, she said Buffalo's police department should be "defunded immediately."

The Biden campaign did not reply to Fox News' request for comment, although the campaign confirmed it received the request for comment. Fox News also reached out to Pearl for comment. Pearl did not reply, but she deleted all of these tweets shortly afterward.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ed-from-police

Biden should take a vacation.

[Bill the Cat]

Biden should take a vacation.

Yeah, because it's not "defunding", it's "redirecting"

[Whateverman]

Yeah, because it's not "defunding", it's "redirecting"

That's what the slogan has meant ever since it was coined. Sure, some supporters literally want police departments to have their budgets cut completely, but they're the radical minority the right loves to focus on, instead of the progressive majority who only want some of the funding redirected to social programs.

It's not as easy to stir up fear and outrage over the actions of peaceful moderates :)

[rogue06]

That's what the slogan has meant ever since it was coined.

When it was used back during the 60s by folks like Angela Davis and others they made it clear that they wanted the police completely defunded -- i.e., dismantled and disbanded.