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Ahmaud Arbery; racist killing and attempted cover up.
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Sticking with the FACTS....
One of the claims was that Arbery was jogging "10 miles from home". It appears, however, that Arbery was staying with his mother "within a few miles of neighborhood".
Is this in dispute?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostPointing out the racial bias coming from the defenders of the McMichaels gang is not hiding behind the race card.
Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post... Give up your racist cotton pickin' minute ...
Don't take it personal,
but that's the canard that is always thrown out there whenever anyone points out the racism they see.
We heard the same accusations, "that we're huding behind the race card", when pointing out the racism of the Treyvon Martin murderer.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post..."that we're huding behind the race card", when pointing out the racism of the Treyvon Martin murderer.
And you care so much for Trayvon that you can't even get his name right.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostFalse. I said from the very start of this thread that the fact that Arbery was caught trespassing doesn't justify the actions taken against him. But neither have I seen anything to suggest that the McMichaels are cold blooded murders who only went after him because he was black.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post737566
I'm keeping an open mind. Are you?
That's what you call an open mind? That's not an open mind, MM, that's a prejudiced mind.
Hard to believe you cited that post in your defense.Last edited by JimL; 05-25-2020, 10:06 AM.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post...He was 10 miles from his house. (An outright lie)
He cased the place on multiple occasions at night. (Another outright lie).The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, hold on a cotton pickin' minute.... It's not an "outright lie", it's one of the facts that's in dispute. Supposedly he was staying with his mother "a few miles from the scene", but I don't think that's been established yet.
Perhaps you're unaware how difficult it is to prove a negative? IF he was filmed at the scene at night in the past, that's evidence that could be used to support the claim that he was "casing the place" (though I think that's a stretch, given I don't see any kind of criminal activity in Arbery's past, and some possible police abuse in the past)
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, hold on a cotton pickin' minute.... It's not an "outright lie", it's one of the facts that's in dispute. Supposedly he was staying with his mother "a few miles from the scene", but I don't think that's been established yet.
Perhaps you're unaware how difficult it is to prove a negative? IF he was filmed at the scene at night in the past, that's evidence that could be used to support the claim that he was "casing the place" (though I think that's a stretch, given I don't see any kind of criminal activity in Arbery's past, and some possible police abuse in the past)
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou mean like when you guys went apoplectic about a "white guy" killing a "black man", when Zimmerman was actually Hispanic, or, as some idiot at the New York Times described him - a "white Hispanic"?
And you care so much for Trayvon that you can't even get his name right.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou mean like when you guys went apoplectic about a "white guy" killing a "black man", when Zimmerman was actually Hispanic, or, as some idiot at the New York Times described him - a "white Hispanic"?Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-25-2020, 10:31 AM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd where did the 10 miles away accusation come from? I haven't seen it cited anywhere other than from, MM.
Right, so then you don't posit a negative.
I've seen no direct evidence that Arberry was ever there before.
Not that it would matter if he was.
There is really not a whole lot that is left at construction site like that to be stolen anyway. What was he going to do carry lumber 2 1/2 miles to his house?
Here's the problem --- you keep coming up with nutty theories or questions to discount actual facts, instead of looking at the actual facts and seeing where they lead.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostActually considering Hispanics white is a common accepted racial designation, and yes Hispanics are a wide range of racial mix from pure Caucasian to Native American mix like Mestizo. Hispanic is more a cultural designation as being from the Hispanic culture of South and Central America. The tribal people of South and Central America with very little mixing are considered Native American, and not White.
The article goes on to expose the falsehood that "white Hispanic" is a common term.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Here's the problem --- you keep coming up with nutty theories or questions to discount actual facts, instead of looking at the actual facts and seeing where they lead.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostPeople were apoplectic, as you define it, because it was a murder based on racism.,
not because the murderer was white.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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