Half of all cases happening in care homes

[mossrose]

This is a flat out lie.

And he totally ignored my question to him. He's such a troll-y troll.

[Cow Poke]

Post number 12: "the quality of the employees seems to indicate a "let's hire the absolute cheapest labor we can get away with", and condition of the facility is run down."

A factual statement. There are various skill levels in health care, simp. I happen to know how to read a nametag.

Do you inform the workers when you go into the nursing home that they appear to be the cheapest labor the home can get away with? Do you think those workers would see it as denigrating their work and themselves?

We're there to support them, simp - no denigration whatsoever.

There are two questions here, but I suppose only the first one is needed: Do you tell the workers that they appear to be the cheapest help available?

I'd leave that to a self-righteous Pharisee like you.

[Cow Poke]

And he totally ignored my question to him. He's such a troll-y troll.

I'm beginning to think he's trying to outdo Ox in the root-of-bitterness department.

[mossrose]

I'm beginning to think he's trying to outdo Ox in the root-of-bitterness department.

Pretty much.

[simplicio]

And he totally ignored my question to him. He's such a troll-y troll.

I did not answer it, as I think it besides the point.

In case you are unfamiliar with the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector, you can find it in Luke 18.

[simplicio]

A factual statement. There are various skill levels in health care, simp. I happen to know how to read a nametag.



We're there to support them, simp - no denigration whatsoever.



I'd leave that to a self-righteous Pharisee like you.

And the name tag suggests for you the quality of their work!

[Cow Poke]

And the name tag suggests for you the quality of their work!

Actually, no --- but there is a huge difference between Nurse's Assistant, Nurse, Physician's Assistant, Director of Nursing, etc.....

How bout you do a little more research on this before spewing forth more ignorance, like calling residents "patients" and calling nursing homes "hospitals".

[simplicio]

Actually, no --- but there is a huge difference between Nurse's Assistant, Nurse, Physician's Assistant, Director of Nursing, etc.....

How bout you do a little more research on this before spewing forth more ignorance, like calling residents "patients" and calling nursing homes "hospitals".

I defer to your expertise. Laugh out Loud

Does the Nurse's Assistant (hey, does the capitalization change the meaning, or just give it an air of authority?) have a quality any less than a nurse? I find your posts so informative.

[shunyadragon]

No, the horribleness (is that a word?) was from the way the people are being treated. Most nursing homes are understaffed, have a low budget, and staffed with people who don't seem to care about the patients. It's probably the lowest rung on the healthcare ladder. If you are any good, you would be working somewhere else. And that shows. I have had family members in nursing homes.

Now I am not saying that there are NO people working there that care for patients and do a good job. I am sure there are, and probably some good nursing homes out there, but by and large, they are not someplace you want to end up, or loved ones. We put our mother in one when she had lung cancer on the advice of a doctor. After only a few days, we took her back out and my brother took her in and hired home nurses and hospice. My brother's father-in-law had a stroke and their family could not care for him and there wasn't any home healthcare avaliable there so he had to go to a nursing home. They took such poor care of him that he lost a leg because they didn't catch an infection in time. He eventually died there.

As I previously noted that the problem is not the nursing homes it is the fact that the elderly over 65 and the vulnerable are by far the highest group in the fatalities and severe cases. The extended care just happen to be where a large portion of elderly and vulnerable live. It just takes one person that is asymptomatic or have a mild infection to contaminate nursing homes, and there are hundreds of thousands or more carriers of COVAG-19 with little or no symptoms.

[mossrose]

I did not answer it, as I think it besides the point.



In case you are unfamiliar with the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector, you can find it in Luke 18.

You didn't answer the question because you likely do nothing for your local nursing homes. You likely don't even visit anybody who resides in one out of simple Christian care and concern.

You are a hypocrite of the highest order.

[mossrose]

As I previously noted that the problem is not the nursing homes it is the fact that the elderly over 65 and the vulnerable are by far the highest group in the fatalities and severe cases. The extended care just happen to be where a large portion of elderly and vulnerable live. It just takes one person that is asymptomatic or have a mild infection to contaminate nursing homes, and there are hundreds of thousands or more carriers of COVAG-19 with little or no symptoms.

Yes! That is exactly what happens. It is the same with any infectious things going around. Residents of nursing homes and long care facilities are prone to all kinds of flus and other things because they are vulnerable, not only because of where they reside, but because they have, often, underlying health issues.

[Cow Poke]

I defer to your expertise.

You really should, since you appear to have precious little.

Laugh out Loud

Now you're denigrating?

Does the Nurse's Assistant (hey, does the capitalization change the meaning, or just give it an air of authority?) have a quality any less than a nurse?

It's a title, and I guess I could have typed it in lowercase if I were wanting to denigrate that person.

I find your posts so informative.

Well, you could, if you weren't so bent on being a horses' butt.

[shunyadragon]

Yes! That is exactly what happens. It is the same with any infectious things going around. Residents of nursing homes and long care facilities are prone to all kinds of flus and other things because they are vulnerable, not only because of where they reside, but because they have, often, underlying health issues.

This is compounded by the fact that this virus dominantly severely infects and kills the elderly and vulnerable in and out of the extended care facilities.

[Cow Poke]

This is compounded by the fact that this virus dominantly severely infects and kills the elderly and vulnerable in and out of the extended care facilities.

And the fact that those in nursing homes and care facilities are pretty much immobile, with a constant stream of care givers coming from other residents to them, then on to other residents...

[simplicio]

You didn't answer the question because you likely do nothing for your local nursing homes. You likely don't even visit anybody who resides in one out of simple Christian care and concern.

That is one possibility. Another possibility is that I take the Bible, and the words of our Savior seriously.

You are a hypocrite of the highest order.

Does that mean I am not invited to canada?