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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYes - it is likely to be more of a challenge - depending on the specific sector/location/product.
These generalized observations you are making do not appear to address the core issue: little is being done to act on the Defense Production Act and even begin getting what is needed moving. What is happening thus far is, AFAICT, largely the result of private action hampered by a lack of coordination and executive effort needing to deal with the logistics. Only recently have steps been taken to stop the price gouging, but there is still no coordination of resources between states to ensure precious resources are going to need rather than wealth. The fed has been handing out the stockpile, which Trump just admitted is almost depleted. When that happens - things are going to get ugly fast."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIf the first case showed up in mid November and it takes 3-14 days for symptoms to show up, how long would it had taken hospital workers to show signs of COVID19 infection? Not too long.
These are some of the things we know. You are projecting current knowledge on a past when that knowledge did not exist, and then making amazing assumptions about what was going on inside of China - and couching those assumptions with a level of certainty you cannot justify.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostPix - we only knew the first case was mid-November as the result of studies and investigations completed in March. What we do know is that on December 30th, China reported to the WHO a "cluster of pneumonia cases." According to the WSJ
These are some of the things we know. You are projecting current knowledge on a past when that knowledge did not exist, and then making amazing assumptions about what was going on inside of China - and couching those assumptions with a level of certainty you cannot justify."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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http://cointelegraph.com/news/todays...erstand-crypto
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI've not seen this. Sources?Last edited by JimL; 04-02-2020, 10:07 AM.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNo, you should have said China had to have known for days or maybe weeks. Not months."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostNovember, December, January. How many months is that?
Either you know that you shouldn't be including the whole of January, in which case you're lying, or you don't, in which case you're unbelievably stupid. Either way, I'm no longer interested.Last edited by Roy; 04-02-2020, 10:36 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostDoes the US government have the legal right to tell factories to build medical equipment, when a war has not been declared?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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OK - so you're back to turning an argument into what was not said - attacking it - and then attacking the messenger.
We're done, Pix. I no longer have time for your foolishness. When/if you ever become serious about exploring the issues and looking at the facts, let me know and I'll be happy to chat.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDec. 10th the first patient came down with the virus, which wasn't understood at the time, Dec. 31st China informed the WHO. That's weeks, too long, but not months.
ETA: I will acknowledge, however, that it is sometimes difficult to watch people misrepresent your points and spread lies without feeling a desire to respond. We're all human. Fight the feeling!Last edited by carpedm9587; 04-02-2020, 10:50 AM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDec. 10th the first patient came down with the virus, which wasn't understood at the time, Dec. 31st China informed the WHO. That's weeks, too long, but not months."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Roy View PostDo your own maths, troll.
Either you know that you shouldn't be including the whole of January, in which case you're lying, or you don't, in which case you're unbelievably stupid. Either way, I'm no longer interested."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYes. The Defense Production Act allows for harnessing these businesses for anything that has to do with defending the nation, which includes against a pandemic. "Defense" is not just "military" and "war.""The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostLet it go, Jim. She's trolling and we're all guilty of "feeding the trolls." I'm sure if we all stop responding to their foolishness, eventually they'll get bored and move on."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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