Donald Trump and the Coronavirus

[Mountain Man]

China.

[Mountain Man]

The government that has handled it best so far with a large outbreak is S Korea.

Okay, but they have certain inherent advantages that the US lacks, as KingsGambit and rogue pointed out. That's why I was asking for an apples-to-apples comparison. I think the US has done as well as could be reasonably expected, and I don't know of any similar countries that have done better.

[simplicio]

The new cases in much of China are not locally contracted cases. but cases from those returning home. So yes, they are an example of a large country which is successful.

We have largely ignored the lessons to be learned from China's experience, which had a few months head start. But now we are using the methods China used.

[Zara]

Okay, but they have certain inherent advantages that the US lacks, as KingsGambit and rogue pointed out. That's why I was asking for an apples-to-apples comparison. I think the US has done as well as could be reasonably expected, and I don't know of any similar countries that have done better.

I think the US has done a terrible job. The country has spent trillions on defense over the past decades. So much money it boggles the mind. Meanwhile very little appears to be invested in protecting itself, and the world at large, from a pandemic. It is clear, that such preparation and funding is necessary - since this is going to cost trillions once the dust settles.

So, what is reasonably expected is that the world, and the US, would have been prepared for such an event. That of course requires international cooperation, something Trumpism seems incapable of facilitating.

Such events have happened in recent decades, with Ebola in particular. Following the creation of various international and national bodies that operated across global theatres, it was stopped in countries that have very little health infrastructure. The US among others is to be commended for its efforts. That was of course under the most evil man alive, Obama (according to the simple souls here). Meanwhile Trump, that wants to overturn the previous election be undoing anything and everything related to that terrible man, went and undid much of the pandemic planning and response capability developed to combat similar threats, among other health related cuts: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/

Meanwhile the US, under Trump and his retard administration, has been delinquent in preparing for an event like this, as have others. I don't see how that make it better - everyone failed to see this coming (many health professionals saw it coming), so that makes it ok.

[lilpixieofterror]

I think the US has done a terrible job. The country has spent trillions on defense over the past decades. So much money it boggles the mind. Meanwhile very little appears to be invested in protecting itself, and the world at large, from a pandemic. It is clear, that such preparation and funding is necessary - since this is going to cost trillions once the dust settles.

So, what is reasonably expected is that the world, and the US, would have been prepared for such an event. That of course requires international cooperation, something Trumpism seems incapable of facilitating.

Such events have happened in recent decades, with Ebola in particular. Following the creation of various international and national bodies that operated across global theatres, it was stopped in countries that have very little health infrastructure. The US among others is to be commended for its efforts. That was of course under the most evil man alive, Obama (according to the simple souls here). Meanwhile Trump, that wants to overturn the previous election be undoing anything and everything related to that terrible man, went and undid much of the pandemic planning and response capability developed to combat similar threats, among other health related cuts: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/

Meanwhile the US, under Trump and his retard administration, has been delinquent in preparing for an event like this, as have others. I don't see how that make it better - everyone failed to see this coming (many health professionals saw it coming), so that makes it ok.

[Mountain Man]

I think the US has done a terrible job.

Are you all illiterate? I already know you low-information types think the US is behind the curve on this, but that's not what I asked. My question is, what other comparable country is handling it better than the Trump administration? So far, it seems that the answer is "no one".

[Bill the Cat]

I think the US has done a terrible job. The country has spent trillions on defense over the past decades. So much money it boggles the mind. Meanwhile very little appears to be invested in protecting itself, and the world at large, from a pandemic. It is clear, that such preparation and funding is necessary - since this is going to cost trillions once the dust settles.

This is an unprecedented in recent memory event. We are handling it the best we can. Containment and researching a vaccine are the top 2 priorities right now.

So, what is reasonably expected is that the world, and the US, would have been prepared for such an event. That of course requires international cooperation, something Trumpism seems incapable of facilitating.

No one is really working together. Countries are closing their borders and investing in their own economies. And I see no other country actually LEADING the effort to contain it worldwide. Except ol' Trumpy.

Such events have happened in recent decades, with Ebola in particular. Following the creation of various international and national bodies that operated across global theatres, it was stopped in countries that have very little health infrastructure. The US among others is to be commended for its efforts. That was of course under the most evil man alive, Obama (according to the simple souls here).

Sorry, but no. The Ebola outbreak was mainly centralized in Africa. It had not reached the US by any significant measure. This is not the same thing.

Meanwhile Trump, that wants to overturn the previous election be undoing anything and everything related to that terrible man, went and undid much of the pandemic planning and response capability developed to combat similar threats, among other health related cuts: https://forensicnews.net/2020/03/10/...in-the-making/

Utter nonsense. Those responsibilities were folded into other existing agencies that handle global catastrophes.

Meanwhile the US, under Trump and his retard administration, has been delinquent in preparing for an event like this, as have others. I don't see how that make it better - everyone failed to see this coming (many health professionals saw it coming), so that makes it ok.

[shunyadragon]

The primary difference between South Korea and Japan versus the USA is that South Korea and Japan organized nationally and rapidly and proactively implemented measures to control the spread immediately. The USA under Trump's leadership waited more than two months to respond tot coronavirus. He called the coronavirus pandemic a "hoax" and has made many false statements concerning the pandemic, and now proposes prematurally proposed ending many measures, because of his concerns over economics and not peoples lives.

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.html

Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March

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The lies are to much to fit in the limits of posting. You can read the rest of the article for a good bedtime horror story. Not for children they need the sleep. The first patient in South Korea and the USA occured on the same day in January.

[Bill the Cat]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-...-found-in-2019

The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.

[shunyadragon]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-...-found-in-2019

The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.

This is FOX News. I gave the facts concerning the actual response and results in comparing South Korea and Japan versus the USA, and Trump's lies and ridicule of the Pandemic.

Please respond to the facts.

[Bill the Cat]

This is FOX News. I gave the facts concerning the actual response and results in comparing South Korea and Japan versus the USA, and Trump's lies and ridicule of the Pandemic.

Please respond to the facts.

Please stop poisoning the well and address the fact that the US had the highest score on best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019

[shunyadragon]

Please stop poisoning the well and address the fact that the US had the highest score on best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019

Polls do not compete with facts.

This is FOX News. I gave the facts concerning the actual response and results in comparing South Korea and Japan versus the USA, and Trump's lies and ridicule of the Pandemic.

Please respond to the facts.

[Mountain Man]

This is FOX News.

And you posted an article from the disreputable CNN that uses every dirty trick in the book to twist Trump's statements in order to call them "lies".

[firstfloor]

There is no doubt about where Trump stands.

https://youtu.be/ch7_t2Ri2Zg
Rewind the tape.

The world is being changed by this virus. It might never be the same again.

Trump has failed, spectacularly, to grasp the scale of the problem, even after watching other countries struggle. He is in denial. He is not the man for this job, and he should step aside.

[shunyadragon]

And you posted an article from the disreputable CNN that uses every dirty trick in the book to twist Trump's statements in order to call them "lies".

They are direct and complete quotes by Donald Trump and on film.