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  • Hmm... if a mother had her toddler torn limb from limb, what would that be considered? And recall that I view the human fetus as having the same rights as a human toddler or teen.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
      Abortion is not child abuse. By now, you ought to know better than that.
      Murdering someone is one of the worst forms of abuse.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        Hmm... if a mother had her toddler torn limb from limb, what would that be considered? And recall that I view the human fetus as having the same rights as a human toddler or teen.

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Murdering someone is one of the worst forms of abuse.
          Happily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.

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          • Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
            Abortion is not child abuse. By now, you ought to know better than that.
            You save the whales, you save the seals
            You save whatever's cute and squeals
            But you kill that thing that's in the womb
            Would not want no baby-boom
            Good, bad, laugh, and scorn
            Blame yourself for kiddie porn
            Convenience is the law you keep
            And your compassion's ankle deep!

            Who you trying to kid, kid?
            Wrap it in a fine philosophy
            Who you trying to kid, kid?
            But your bottom line still says, "Me me me!"

            -"Bad Rap", Steve Taylor
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
              Happily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.
              Hitler's killing the Jews and other "undesirables" technically wasn't murder either, that is if we apply the standard that there is no higher moral authority to which humans are ultimately answerable.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


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              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Hitler's killing the Jews and other "undesirables" technically wasn't murder either, that is if we apply the standard that there is no higher moral authority to which humans are ultimately answerable.

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                • I don't really keep up with sports.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    You didn't answer the question.
                    I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.

                    Tell you what, next time you encounter a woman who is grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, cheer her up my telling her that it's no big deal, that all she did was expel a non-viable lump of tissue, and that nothing of any inherent value was lost. It should make her feel better.
                    If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?

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                    • Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                      I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.
                      That wasn't the question I asked.

                      If what you claim is true, that a fetus is just a lump of tissue with no inherent value, then why should getting an abortion be considered a tough decision? Why is it "the least bad of several bad courses of action"? Do people struggle with deciding if a tumor should be removed?
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.

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                        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.



                          If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?
                          The bolded section sounds like it came from a pro life group which ministers to women who have had abortions, although it would be (and is) worded differently.

                          Arguments about personhood and fetuses avoid the hard issues, choices the woman faces, the options open to her.

                          Originally posted by Pro life Christian View Post
                          ...... Stop the spin crap - 46 years and more than 60 million brutally cruel murders - THAT HAS TO STOP. If you don't think so, you are NOT pro-life and you can take your world loving, death worship elsewhere.

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                          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            I don't really keep up with sports.
                            I suspect that what ff is trying to do here is make the pro-abortion crowd look bad.

                            Or he's merely blatantly trolling, as is his wont.
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                            • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              Happily, abortion is not murder either. You folks are very, very confused on this subject.
                              What else do you call deliberately snuffing out a human life?

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                                I did. Having an abortion is decided by a woman on the basis of her particular circumstances and, far from being on a passing whim, choosing an abortion is usually a case of choosing the least bad of several bad courses of action.



                                If I encounter a woman grieving over a first trimester miscarriage, I will assume that she was emotionally invested in having a child (most women are) and offer support and comfort at her loss. What else would you expect me to do? And what does this have to do with abortion?
                                I knew a woman back in college who had already had several abortions. She preferred it over birth control.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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