Coronavirus Outbreak...

[Stoic]

Cure? No... we didn't have the boys re-vaccinated. They lost their allergies around the time infant vaccines lose their efficacy. As I said, the timing was suspicious, and the doctor confirmed our suspicions despite his extreme reluctance to do so.

Even if the allergies were caused by vaccines, there is no reason to expect the allergies to go away when the vaccines lose their efficacy. The allergies wouldn't be caused by the vaccine, but rather by food proteins that just happen to be mixed in with the vaccine.

If the doctor had said, "Possibly," or "We can't rule it out," that would have been pretty defensible. Science can't really rule anything out 100%, and even though studies have failed to find a correlation between vaccines and food allergies, you would think there is some risk if the vaccines contain food proteins. But to say that it's "very likely" is not defensible, and would explain why the doctor said, "you didn't hear it from me."

(BTW, I agree with you that vaccines are not perfectly safe. That's why we have the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.)

[Bill the Cat]

Just had a conversation with my coworker. He almost died from G-B after getting a flu shot when he was very young.

[JimL]

Heck, even "routine" vaccines are not 100% safe. I'm not anti-vaccination, but I do think we are an over vaccinated society, and there are a number of side effects that the medical community is reluctant to own up to. Both of my sons developed severe allergies, one to peanut and one to fish (many vaccines are made with peanut and fish products) which started around the time they received their first vaccinations until about 7-years later, which is when vaccines usually need a booster. They went from being deathly allergic to having no allergic reaction at all almost overnight. My wife found the timing suspicious and asked our doctor if the infant vaccines could have been the cause of the allergies. He was extremely reluctant to answer the question, but after she wouldn't let up, he finally said, in effect, "Yes, that is very likely, but you didn't hear it from me."

Sure, MM. It's a world wide conspiracy and cover-up.

[Mountain Man]

Even if the allergies were caused by vaccines, there is no reason to expect the allergies to go away when the vaccines lose their efficacy.

I'm just telling you what the doctor said.

[JimL]

I'm just telling you what the doctor said.

The doctor probably figured you out to be crackpots who wouldn't take no for an answer.

[shunyadragon]

Trump new strategy is "Herd immunity" which equates to the infection of 65 - 70% of the population and 2.3 million deaths. This so called expert health advisor, who was dug up for him by FOXNEWS, who has no experience other than being a radiologist, aka an xray technician.

Also known as Conservative Eugenics.

[Bill the Cat]

Also known as Conservative Eugenics.

It's working for 99% of those infected. And it's working for Sweden.

[shunyadragon]

It's working for 99% of those infected. And it's working for Sweden.

Actually no, it is not clear the Swedish consider their efforts and their original strategy a success.



There is an interesting line of thinking concerning what human efforts that will control the spread of COVID-19, which I may address further in a later post.

My concern from the beginning of the CIOVID-19 pandemic is the lack of an organized aggressive effort to protect the elderly and the vulnerable. It was known very very early that the high fatality rate was a very real threat. I have never heard nor seen and concern from Donald Trump for concern over the elderly and vulnerable, nor was any plan ever implemented to protect them.

It is also acknowledged that countries that are relatively isolated like Sweden, New Zealand and Taiwan cannot be compared to large diverse countries with extensive connections worldwide like the USA.

Source: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-what-happened-in-sweden-and-you-cant-compare-it-to-u-s

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[shunyadragon]

Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/11/kids-caught-coronavirus-at-childcare-infected-family-cdc-report-says.html

Kids caught the coronavirus at child care centers and infected family members, CDC report says

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[Starlight]

Actually no, it is not clear the Swedish consider their efforts and their original strategy a success.

At this point, now that the evidence is pretty much in, the vast majority of the world seems to consider Sweden's approach to Covid as an example of What Not To Do.

It's amusing to see the evidence-free group of US conservatives still touting the Swedish strategy though.

[Terraceth]

Trump new strategy is "Herd immunity" which equates to the infection of 65 - 70% of the population and 2.3 million deaths. This so called expert health advisor, who was dug up for him by FOXNEWS, who has no experience other than being a radiologist, aka an xray technician.

To say an x-ray technician is a radiologist is like saying that an LPN who trims a patient's toenails is a podiatrist.

[shunyadragon]

To say an x-ray technician is a radiologist is like saying that an LPN who trims a patient's toenails is a podiatrist.

Trump, of course, is not an authority on COVID-19 nor virology. He is leader of the country it is his responsibility to consult and follow the scientific and medical authorities as Obama did.

[JimL]

To say an x-ray technician is a radiologist is like saying that an LPN who trims a patient's toenails is a podiatrist.

The point is that he has no experience in infectious disease or pandemics. So why was he brought on to the Administrations team? Because FOXNews dug him up and he publicly agreed with and defended the presidents horrific response to the pandemic.

[shunyadragon]

Trump, of course, is not an authority on COVID-19 nor virology. He is leader of the country it is his responsibility to consult and follow the scientific and medical authorities as Obama did.

It is on record that Trump received briefings from different sources describing in pretty much the scientific and medical dangerous nature of the pandemic. This was reflected in his admission of lying concerning the seriousness of the pandemic. He knew enough scientific detail, but lied.

[JimL]

It is on record that Trump received briefings from different sources describing in pretty much the scientific and medical dangerous nature of the pandemic. This was reflected in his admission of lying concerning the seriousness of the pandemic. He knew enough scientific detail, but lied.

After his knowledge of the danger the virus posed was exposed in Woodwards book, Trumps newfound excuse for downplaying it was that he didn't want to create a panic. Nobody with half a brain would believe that. Informing the American people of the danger so that they can better protect themselves was hardly going to create a panic. Although we are talking about Trump here, so perhaps he did believe that. But then, what does he even mean by a panic? So the question remains, was it just his, and or his advisors stupidity? And if not that, then what was the real reason behind his downplaying of the danger? Whatever the true answer is, the decision is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths, an unprecedented economic collapse, and for that reason alone he should be voted out of office.