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  • For the casual reader, the entire quote, with the fragment Pix has snipped out in context, was:



    Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    If given the means, do you believe Trump would commit genocide? Yes or no?
    I have no idea. I would hope not.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      Still no answer,

      If given the means, do you believe Trump would commit genocide? Yes or no?
      See my previous post.
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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      • Originally posted by Roy View Post
        No, it doesn't mean that. Not even when taken out of context, as you just did.

        If I thought you'd listen or understand I'd say more, but I don't think that, so I'll not waste my time.
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • The answer is 'yes' for a lot of people, given the right circumstances. That is why laws are required, that is why civilization always sits on a precipice. Trump is closer to that edge than most.
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
            For the casual reader, the entire quote, with the fragment Pix has snipped out in context, was:





            I have no idea. I would hope not.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              More is required than just means, even for a Hitler. There must be a target of the hate that would drive person to that action. Has Trump demonstrated the sort of hatred towards an entire group of people that could be a place from which which a genocide could arise? I'm not sure I've seen that from him at this point, though his hatred of immigrants I believe to be a red flag that says 'caution here'.
              There is a list by Genocide Watch of the 10 stages of Genocide. My assessment is that Trump is at Stage 6. I'd be curious to know where you put him.

              Note...being at Stage 6 does not necessarily mean you are going to Stage 10. But it does mean you have begun to create an environment that makes Stage 10 more likely.
              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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              • See my previous post on this topic.
                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  The answer is 'yes' for a lot of people, given the right circumstances. That is why laws are required, that is why civilization always sits on a precipice. Trump is closer to that edge than most.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Maybe Carpe answers posts linearly and hasn't gotten to that one yet...?


                    Your first instance of this was at 11:36, Pix., about 14 minutes ago. I don't sit here waiting for you to post, so you might want to allow a more than 15 minutes for someone to respond to you? Just a thought.
                    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                    • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                      See my previous post on this topic.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                        There is a list by Genocide Watch of the 10 stages of Genocide. My assessment is that Trump is at Stage 6. I'd be curious to know where you put him.

                        Note...being at Stage 6 does not necessarily mean you are going to Stage 10. But it does mean you have begun to create an environment that makes Stage 10 more likely.
                        I'd say 5 or 6, That is scary .. especially wrt immigration and immigrants.
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                          Maybe Carpe answers posts linearly and hasn't gotten to that one yet...?
                          Or maybe, getting a straight answer out of you is like trying to nail jello to a wall.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            The answer is 'yes' for a lot of people, given the right circumstances. That is why laws are required, that is why civilization always sits on a precipice. Trump is closer to that edge than most.
                            Agreed.
                            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                            • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                              There is a list by Genocide Watch of the 10 stages of Genocide. My assessment is that Trump is at Stage 6. I'd be curious to know where you put him.

                              Note...being at Stage 6 does not necessarily mean you are going to Stage 10. But it does mean you have begun to create an environment that makes Stage 10 more likely.
                              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                              • Umm...that WAS my answer. When I don't know, "I don't know" is the response. I have no idea if Trump would commit genocide if given the means. That in and of itself is not a compliment to Trump. If you asked me the same question about Obama, Bush (I or II), Clinton, Reagan, Macron, Trudeau, Merkel, or any number of current and past world leaders, my answer would have been "I sincerely doubt it."
                                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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