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Communist Ideology in America's Security Agencies
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My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI did contribute. I made clear it's a nutcase video. You are free to ignore that or benefit from the contribution. You would do well not to fill your head with such crazy nonsense, but it is your life.
I had hoped you had some privileged information about the author. This would have been interesting and would have given a little more caution toward acceptance of the video.
There are people who give true information about the untrustworthy writers and there are untrustworthy people who give false testimony about such writers. This is the crazy world we live in.Last edited by mikewhitney; 01-21-2020, 02:53 PM.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostShe may have made a short comment about this. I was paying most attention to the moments she talked about the evidence she found about Comey's college days and his keen interest in Reinhold Niebuhr. She also mentioned a paper by Brennan -- something about revolutions. She seemed to stick mostly to evidence of their viewpoints rather than about why the apparent goal of fighting communism would be promulgated even if their interest is in promoting socialism/communism.
It seems like the Dems like to scare us about Communism as the boogeyman at the front door while letting it's sister, socialist policy, in through the back door.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI could see it as a case of projection, which seems likely since the red scare paranoia from the left has been so over the top. However, the contradiction still bothers me because of the fact that intelligence has been so relentless in fighting against Russia at almost every step (especially with what we saw in Ukraine and Syria).
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI could see it as a case of projection, which seems likely since the red scare paranoia from the left has been so over the top. However, the contradiction still bothers me because of the fact that intelligence has been so relentless in fighting against Russia at almost every step (especially with what we saw in Ukraine and Syria).
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThe video's too long. But how does she square the contradiction of intelligence embracing a communist/Stalinist ideology on one hand, as she claims, and spreading fearmonger about Russia and the red scare to ridiculous levels to the public on the other?
Trotskyites branded themselves as 'neocons' and were aggressive against the USSR, but for them it was always an intra-Communism struggle.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostIt is not an exaggeration to say the neoconservatism is Trotskyism, neocons are Marxist.
Have you actually read anything from Whitaker Chambers?
And Lew Rockwell is an interesting source for a real Christian to use to show neocons are pinkos!
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Originally posted by simplicio View PostCertainly no communist could ever see the error of his ways!
Have you actually read anything from Whitaker Chambers?
And Lew Rockwell is an interesting source for a real Christian to use to show neocons are pinkos!Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostMarxists had internal conflicts, the big conflict between Stalin and Trotsky is well-established. Neocons (Irving Kristol is the big, big example) were Trotskyites and Trotskyites hated Stalin and his USSR.
Trotskyites branded themselves as 'neocons' and were aggressive against the USSR, but for them it was always an intra-Communism struggle.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostWhat drives leftists to forge new careers by siding with their former enemies? These apostates dont simply retool or change course they make an epic transformation, joining the very forces they once sought to upend. From Whittaker Chambers to David Horowitz, they customarily announce their volte face and market themselves as insiders ready to blow the whistle on their former comrades.
Often a team of elders, who already made the ideological switch, appears to bless them and ease their transition, providing new publishing outlets and career opportunities. In books, articles, and public appearances, these former reds beat a noisy retreat from their old commitments, displaying an unearned confidence in their new view of the world and a hair-on-fire intolerance for those still adhering to their prior convictions. Oddly, after convicting themselves for a long record of naiveté, ignorance, disloyalty, and worse, these born-again conservatives expect us to trust their latest political judgments.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/...of-christians/
How many of those ideas would be condemned as antichrist by Christians here on tweb?
Is repentance really possible? I think it is
What would Tweb be without wormtongues questioning if other people are 'real Christians'?
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostPeople could be against Russia while still being interested in Communism/Socialism. People that like Communism often think that the previous failures simply mean that Communism just hasn't been correctly implemented yet.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]42295[/ATTACH]
Maybe no one has seen the film Dr Strangelove, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. An OP on communist infiltration of the US government becomes an argument against neocons!
Neoconservatism was a reaction against the new left, and collected hardliner cold warriors! It did pick up a lot of former socialists, which makes sense, according to neocons.
If socialism is not the best thing to come along since Plato, then we would expect to see disillusioned leftists leave the communists and socialists for a conservative political stance. They were leaving behind the socialism, not smuggling socialist views into conservatism.
And I have to add that I am not a neocon (except for a period after 9-11 when everyone was a neocon), but I have great admiration for some neocon writers. Hey, anyone who warns about the unintended consequences of liberls' policies can't be all wrong.Last edited by simplicio; 01-23-2020, 02:39 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]42295[/ATTACH]
Russia and China were among the poorest countries in the world when they became socialist, the USSR quickly grew economically to be powerful enough to challenge the US for global dominance, and today China does the same. In recent decades the country with the fastest rate of economic growth in the world was democratic socialist Bolivia.
The historical downsides of socialist regimes have come if they abolished democracy and moved to a dictatorship. In those instances they've typically suffered the same sorts of problems common to dictatorships throughout history. In cases where they've kept to democratic socialism, it's been fine. The cartoon seems pretty ignorant of all the times it's worked fine."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWith regard to economic outcomes, socialism has historically done very well. It's the authoritarianism associated with one-party-state-communism implementations of non-democratic versions of socialism that have been historically problematic.
Russia and China were among the poorest countries in the world when they became socialist, the USSR quickly grew economically to be powerful enough to challenge the US for global dominance, and today China does the same. In recent decades the country with the fastest rate of economic growth in the world was democratic socialist Bolivia.
The historical downsides of socialist regimes have come if they abolished democracy and moved to a dictatorship. In those instances they've typically suffered the same sorts of problems common to dictatorships throughout history. In cases where they've kept to democratic socialism, it's been fine. The cartoon seems pretty ignorant of all the times it's worked fine.
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