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  • #61
    Originally posted by seanD View Post
    US military, without invitation, is in Syria, in control of their oil fields. Since when do they need anyone's permission to occupy a foreign country?

    Apparently Trump is supposed to meet with senators in a closed-door top secret discussion (who even knows what that's about -- Hey Trump, take down Iran like we want and your impeachment goes away lol?), so I guess we'll know what the outcome will be after that.
    Syria is an adversary.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Syria is an adversary.
      Well, now it appears Iraq is an adversary.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        I would think that there is a significant difference between being a civilian simply living out their life and being a military leader flying in to oversee operations -- including organizing lethal attacks on us -- wouldn't you agree?
        The reason for the targeted assassination was supposedly a Soleimani planned imminent attack against the U.S. Be skeptical, there is no evidence forthcoming on that in the same vein as there was no evidence for the claims made by the Bush Administration for going to war with Iraq.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by seanD View Post
          Well, now it appears Iraq is an adversary.
          If Germany or other allies decided that it was no longer in their best interests to have U.S. forces stationed on their soil, it doesn't necessarily make them an adversary. Iraq is Irans' neighbor and it's people are divided so the government is doing what it believes to be in their best interests at the moment, not because they are adversarial to the U.S.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            If Germany or other allies decided that it was no longer in their best interests to have U.S. forces stationed on their soil, it doesn't necessarily make them an adversary. Iraq is Irans' neighbor and it's people are divided so the government is doing what it believes to be in their best interests at the moment, not because they are adversarial to the U.S.
            Jimmy, you might want to learn what a SOFA is. We have one with Germany, but not with Iraq.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • #66
              Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
              Jimmy, you might want to learn what a SOFA is. We have one with Germany, but not with Iraq.
              SOFA"s are military framework agreements Lilpix, and the contents of those agreements vary depending on the country. The SOFA agreement with Iraq had the U.S. withrawing its forces in 2011. The point though is that a sovereign country doesn't automatically become an adversary just beause they decide they no longer want U.S. troops stationed in their country.
              Last edited by JimL; 01-06-2020, 09:52 PM.

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              • #67
                The letter was a mistake.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  The letter was a mistake.
                  And Trump's back to threatening to sanction Iraq. Not sure mr dementia knows who his enemies and allies are from one day to the next.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    And Trump's back to threatening to sanction Iraq. Not sure mr dementia knows who his enemies and allies are from one day to the next.
                    And bombers moved to Diego Garcia. Definitely, this is not a job for someone who usually works in the hospitality business.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      SOFA"s are military framework agreements Lilpix, and the contents of those agreements vary depending on the country. The SOFA agreement with Iraq had the U.S. withrawing its forces in 2011. The point though is that a sovereign country doesn't automatically become an adversary just beause they decide they no longer want U.S. troops stationed in their country.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        And Trump's back to threatening to sanction Iraq. Not sure mr dementia knows who his enemies and allies are from one day to the next.
                        He knows his ally is Putin who is loving everything Trump is doing in the Middle East. Remember his original decision was to not take out Soleimani, then he had a call with Putin and changed his mind. As a result we have the people of Iran uniting behind the government and Iraq voting to oust the U.S. military. Putin couldn't be more pleased.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          He knows his ally is Putin who is loving everything Trump is doing in the Middle East. Remember his original decision was to not take out Soleimani, then he had a call with Putin and changed his mind. As a result we have the people of Iran uniting behind the government and Iraq voting to oust the U.S. military. Putin couldn't be more pleased.


                          Iran and Russia, are allies.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • #73
                            About Diego Garcia:

                            Since the 1980s the government of Mauritius and the Maldives has sought to regain control over the Chagos Archipelago, which was separated from the British Colony of Mauritius by the UK in 1965 to form the British Indian Ocean Territory. On 23 June 2017, the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) voted in favour of referring the territorial dispute between Mauritius, the Maldives and the UK to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in order to clarify the legal status of the Chagos Islands archipelago in the Indian Ocean. The motion was approved by a majority vote with 94 voting for and 15 against. Judge Abdulqawi Ahmed Yusuf described the UK's administration of the Chagos Islands as "an unlawful act of continuing character". In February 2019, the International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled that Britain should transfer the islands to Mauritius as they were not legally separated from the latter in 1965.
                            Wikipedia
                            Last edited by firstfloor; 01-07-2020, 06:50 AM.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              About Diego Garcia:
                              I've been there. It was wonderful.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post


                                Iran and Russia, are allies.
                                So what, Russia cares about their own interests and uniting the Iranian people against the U.S. and the ousting of U.S, troops from Iraq is probably more than they had hoped for.

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