Yeah, why is it that suppression often correlate with Democratic losses in red states :icantfindthesmileyoftheguyrubbinghischin:?
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostProbably has something to do with the unpopularity of most Republican policy goals and the knowledge that if everyone voted the Republican party would need to change or dieLast edited by JimL; 01-08-2020, 06:57 PM.
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They got caught admitting that it is part of their strategy just last month. BI is definitely not a "left wing" publication from what I've seen.
"Traditionally it's always been Republicans suppressing votes in places," Clark told the group, which included Wisconsin State Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald and the executive director of the state's Republican party.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostProbably has something to do with the unpopularity of most Republican policy goals and the knowledge that if everyone voted the Republican party would need to change or die"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
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There are a number of reasons Democrats have trouble in certain areas. Probably the greatest one is the one totally outside their control -- the realization of white Christians that their day as the majority in this country is inexorably coming to an end within their lifetimes.
At the risk of offending half of the people on here, it can't come soon enough.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostSo will you join be in condemning voter suppression wherever it occurs? I can't think of much less American than preventing others from having a voice in our government. Find me a democrat doing this (or gerrymandering) and I'll be happy to condemn them. Would you agree to do the same?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostYou will always find this sort of stuff going on. Oddly drawn districts, ballet boxes mysteriously disappearing/appearing at the perfect moment, odd last minute voter registration, etc. Is there an issue? Sure, but remember, not only one party does it.
So will you join me in condemning voter suppression wherever it occurs? I can't think of much less American than preventing others from having a voice in our government. Find me a democrat doing this (or gerrymandering) and I'll be happy to condemn them. Would you agree to do the same?
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostYou will always find this sort of stuff going on. Oddly drawn districts, ballet boxes mysteriously disappearing/appearing at the perfect moment, odd last minute voter registration, etc. Is there an issue? Sure, but remember, not only one party does it.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostYou will always find this sort of stuff going on. Oddly drawn districts, ballet boxes mysteriously disappearing/appearing at the perfect moment, odd last minute voter registration, etc. Is there an issue? Sure, but remember, not only one party does it.
But, regardless, this is like saying "Well, we'll always have murders so I can't really support increasing the police department's budget after we zeroed it out last year." There is voter suppression, in many forms, throughout America today. And while both sides don't engage in it to the same degree, you do find it implemented to protect both Democratic and Republican politicians.
But there are plenty of ways to lessen voter suppression and ways to get rid of some its forms entirely. Why it's so difficult for Republican-leaning folk to sign onto those anti-suppression methods would be confusing if the answer weren't so clear.
Bringing it back around to fascism and authoritarianism, you've got one group of people who are pushing for greater democratic representation, even when it might negatively impact their own party's (or the party they lean toward's) control. The liberal push to end Connecticut's gerrymanders is an example here. On the other end, you have a group of people who staunchly and consistently oppose ending various forms of suppression, even when shown hard data demonstrating the disenfranchising effect. They are, fundamentally, anti-democratic in their approach to political power.
If you want to be calling people fascist, that's a much better place to start.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostAnother reply where you refuse to answer simple and direct questions. It's almost like you're not interested in finding agreement and only want to go cage match 24/7. Let me try again.
So will you join me in condemning voter suppression wherever it occurs? I can't think of much less American than preventing others from having a voice in our government. Find me a democrat doing this (or gerrymandering) and I'll be happy to condemn them. Would you agree to do the same?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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