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Real Clear Average - Polling for Support of Impeachment

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  • #76
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #77
      Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 12-19-2019, 06:16 AM.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Sam View Post
        You don't see the double standard in first saying that Nixon's Actual Crime was burglary, despite that not being an article of impeachment, because he was "connected to an ACTUAL CRIME" and then turning around incredulously asking why, if Trump is connected to several potential crimes here, they're not articles of impeachment?

        You can't see that you're holding two mutually exclusive standards there?

        --Sam
        Totally beside the point - if you'd like to start a thread on that, please feel free to do so, but I honestly don't care.

        The fact is that there were ACTUAL CRIMES, and NO POTUS has EVER been removed by the Senate.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #79
          PERHAPS if they weren't in such a rush, they could have waited for some court rulings, but they are (cough, sputter) "above the law".
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #80
            Today, after the impeachment vote, RCP show 48% against, 47.2% for - and the direction trending quickly against.

            Dems will be slaughtered in 2020

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Ronson View Post
              Today, after the impeachment vote, RCP show 48% against, 47.2% for - and the direction trending quickly against.

              Dems will be slaughtered in 2020
              A lot can happen between now and the election - Remember, Trump's worst enemy is with him everywhere he goes, and every time he looks in the mirror.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                A lot can happen between now and the election - Remember, Trump's worst enemy is with him everywhere he goes, and every time he looks in the mirror.
                I disagree. His #1 enemy is the media. Granted, he doesn't do himself any favors with his Twitter account.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                  Today, after the impeachment vote, RCP show 48% against, 47.2% for - and the direction trending quickly against.

                  Dems will be slaughtered in 2020
                  But it will take a few days for new polls to be averaged in.

                  impeach.jpg
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                    I disagree. His #1 enemy is the media. Granted, he doesn't do himself any favors with his Twitter account.
                    He has no control over the media - he only has control over his own... um....

                    nevermind.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      He has no control over the media - he only has control over his own... um....

                      nevermind.
                      Mouth

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        Mouth
                        Yeah, I gave up cause I don't think he can. (or Twitter)
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #87
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Totally beside the point - if you'd like to start a thread on that, please feel free to do so, but I honestly don't care.

                            The fact is that there were ACTUAL CRIMES, and NO POTUS has EVER been removed by the Senate.
                            As here, there are "ACTUAL CRIMES" and the potential to be removed by the Senate. The crimes alleged or alluded to, in each case, were not brought to a conviction in the Senate. So here.

                            The closest analogy, by far, is Nixon and Terraceth noted earlier that Nixon resigned rather than face a trial in the Senate. So the relevant questions are 1) did Nixon deserve to be impeached and removed and 2) if so, on what factual basis is Trump different? Did Nixon abuse his power obstructing Congress and covering up the Watergate break-in? Did Trump abuse his power obstructing Congress and covering up a pressure campaign against Ukraine for his political benefit?

                            Seems pretty straight to the point, actually.

                            --Sam
                            "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Sam View Post
                              As here, there are "ACTUAL CRIMES"...
                              Sam, please feel free to start your own thread on this, OK? This thread is about the Real Clear Politics aggregate poll report.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #90
                                The AVERAGE creeps up slightly (against impeachment/removal), even after all the hype.

                                impeach.jpg
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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