Second Amendment Sanctuary

[demi-conservative]

Or.. we can understand that "arms" means "firearms" not "bombs"

How would you defend yourself personally using a nuclear bomb? You would kill yourself in the process.

What about IEDs or grenades?

[Mountain Man]

Sounds like you're arguing for limitations, MM. Does the clause mention anything about "excepting arms that are an undue risk to the community?"

It's similar to how the First Amendment does not protect defamation, or inciting a riot.

[JimL]

It's similar to how the First Amendment does not protect defamation, or inciting a riot.

So what are you saying, that there are limitations?

[Mountain Man]

So what are you saying, that there are limitations?

Only as very rare and strictly defined exceptions, and those should not be based solely on people's illegal behavior.

In other words, if a case can be made that a law abiding citizen should be allowed to wield a certain weapon, it makes no sense to ban that weapon just because someone might use it to commit a crime. Personally, I can not think of any good reason why a law abiding citizen should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, so that would be an obvious exception.

[Sparko]

Only as very rare and strictly defined exceptions, and those should not be based solely on people's illegal behavior.

In other words, if a case can be made that a law abiding citizen should be allowed to wield a certain weapon, it makes no sense to ban that weapon just because someone might use it to commit a crime. Personally, I can not think of any good reason why a law abiding citizen should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, so that would be an obvious exception.

"allowed" doesn't matter, MM. We are not "allowed" to bear arms. The constitution says we have the RIGHT to bear arms and they are not "allowed" to infringe on that right. JimL has convinced me that nuclear weapons are included. Except it is illegal for someone to own nuclear material like plutonium without a license or permit, so it would be difficult to have a nuclear bomb without that.

[JimL]

Mountain Man;694003]Only as very rare and strictly defined exceptions,[/B] and those should not be based solely on people's illegal behavior.

Rare and strictly defined exceptions according to who?

In other words, if a case can be made that a law abiding citizen should be allowed to wield a certain weapon, it makes no sense to ban that weapon just because someone might use it to commit a crime. Personally, I can not think of any good reason why a law abiding citizen should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, so that would be an obvious exception.

You just lost your case, MM.

[seer]

Northam declares state of emergency, Capitol weapon ban ahead of gun rights rally



https://www.nbc12.com/2020/01/15/ap-...pitol-grounds/

[Mountain Man]

Why is it that whenever a politician says "Let me be clear", it's almost always followed by a lie? It was one of Obama's favorite phrases.

[rogue06]

Why is it that whenever a politician says "Let me be clear", it's almost always followed by a lie? It was one of Obama's favorite phrases.

Nixon liked it as well IIRC.

[seanD]

It's starting to look a bit testy in Richmond. Supposedly this YT channel is going to live stream the gun rally on Monday.

[seer]

It's starting to look a bit testy in Richmond. Supposedly this YT channel is going to live stream the gun rally on Monday.

Looks like Antifa is marching with the gun rights folks. But with all this stuff with the KKK (The Base) it could get bad.

[JimL]

Only as very rare and strictly defined exceptions, and those should not be based solely on people's illegal behavior.

In other words, if a case can be made that a law abiding citizen should be allowed to wield a certain weapon, it makes no sense to ban that weapon just because someone might use it to commit a crime. Personally, I can not think of any good reason why a law abiding citizen should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, so that would be an obvious exception.

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a semiautomatic is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.

[lilpixieofterror]

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a semiautomatic is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a truck is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a baseball bat is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a knife is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.



Ban trucks!
Ban baseball bats!
Ban knives!

[JimL]

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a truck is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a baseball bat is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.

When it comes to murder, or mass murder, everyone with a knife is a law abiding citizen, until one commits mass murder with it.



Ban trucks!
Ban baseball bats!
Ban knives!

One doesn't commit mass murder with bats and knives, and in comparison to the use of semiautomatics, the use of vehicles are not as deadly, are rare, and vehicles/trucks are absolute necessities to commerce.

[lilpixieofterror]

One doesn't commit mass murder with bats and knives, and in comparison to the use of semiautomatics, the use of vehicles are not as deadly, are rare, and vehicles/trucks are absolute necessities to commerce.