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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, not only Putins puppet in the White House, but the entire republican party now is helping to spread Putin's conspiracy propaganda concerning crowdstrike and Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections and their constituents are eating it up. Putin can't hardly believe, i'm sure, his partnership with Trump and their scheme to undermine democracy has worked so well.
You should write that up and submit it to The Onion!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat's really amazing is how Putin managed to fool Trump into selling those sniper rifles, rocket launchers and Javelin anti-tank missiles* to Kiev to kill Putin's own soldiers and tanks. Brilliant!
*remember the Javelin anti-tank missiles that you thought were 1,000 miles from the battlefield
Ukraine Now Has America's Javelin Missile and Russia Isn't Happy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, getting caught holding up the congressianally appropriated military aid in exchange for personal benefit is what pressured Trump to allow the sale of those Javelins to go through. Trump was going to force Zelensky to publicly announce an investigation into Joe Biden before letting that aid go through, but, he got caught, and there is no assurance that Trump would have let the aid go through had Zelensky done his bidding either.
Theona Hill herself was originally against the javelins during the Obama administration noting that the Ukrainian rag tag army was not trained in their use. But, Obama didn't withhold, for personal benefit, or for any other reason, appropriated military aid to Ukraine. I'm sure you can't see, or understand, the difference between the two situations, but I'll tell you, Trumps actions were illegal and unconstitutional, bribery, extortion, an abuse of power, Obamas action was not.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
You should write that up and submit it to The Onion!
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostIt might be understood this way: In this information war, you have to choose between party or country. The Republican Party is a user of Russian disinformation although they want it only for domestic politics. Their greed for power unwittingly helps Russia.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostInteresting that the Dems tried all that in their impeachment farce, and somehow persuaded the public to be more against impeachment than they were before the hearings. Especially Independents like me.Last edited by firstfloor; 11-24-2019, 10:02 AM.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostMichael Bloomberg throws his hat into the ring.
megagulp.jpgThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe evidence against Trump is easily enough to convict him....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostInteresting that the Dems tried all that in their impeachment farce, and somehow persuaded the public to be more against impeachment than they were before the hearings. Especially Independents like me.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou're starting to sound like the paranoid general in Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangeglove" who was convinced thst Russia was behind water fluoridation in order to contaminate our precious bodily fluids.
Given now the choice between country or party, you choose party, I choose country. To me, my fellow countrymen are not my enemies.
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