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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThey have companion animals to help with that.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI peek in on the hearings on occasion, and I always manage to catch Schiff doing his bug eyes.
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I wonder if he has a thyroid condition which can cause that particular symptom. But then there's the fact that his appearance matches his lunacy, so who can say.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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I not sure what you're talking about. The problem with Hunter Biden is that he and his cohorts were in contact with the Obama state department asking them to put pressure on the Ukrainian government to end a corruption investigation into Hunter's company, and then Joe shows up and pulls his "If you want this half a billion dollars then you'll fire the prosecutor who's causing problems for my boy" routine.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Personally I don't think Hunter did anything illegal taking that job -- even if he knew for a fact that the only reason he got a job that he had absolutely no experience with that paid (IIRC) at least twice these sort of board positions normally dole out was because of his relationship to then Vice President Joe Biden. It might have been horrible optics politically speaking but as the link above reveals nothing new for the family.
smiley hat tip.gif to Lao.gif for the source
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI think that they're now saying "bribery" because "quid pro quo" didn't do well in their focus group testing"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt's an upgrade in terms of crime that's being alleged. It's like saying "we started investigating him for manslaughter... we're now looking at murder charges".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostIt's an upgrade in terms of crime that's being alleged. It's like saying "we started investigating him for manslaughter... we're now looking at murder charges".
"We want to charge him with manslaughter!"
"But there's no evidence he committed manslaughter."
"Fine, then we'll charge him with murder!"Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPersonally I don't think Hunter did anything illegal taking that job -- even if he knew for a fact that the only reason he got a job that he had absolutely no experience with that paid (IIRC) at least twice these sort of board positions normally dole out was because of his relationship to then Vice President Joe Biden. It might have been horrible optics politically speaking but as the link above reveals nothing new for the family.
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The bewildering part of Trump is why his supporters aren't more critical of his twin shots to the foot that brought us to these impeachment hearings. Without his demand for Comey's loyalty and subsequent firing, without Ukraine debacle he'd be skating to the next term. Look at how much energy he wastes defending himself.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMore like...
"We want to charge him with manslaughter!"
"But there's no evidence he committed manslaughter."
"Fine, then we'll charge him with murder!"
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPersonally I don't think Hunter did anything illegal taking that job -- even if he knew for a fact that the only reason he got a job that he had absolutely no experience with that paid (IIRC) at least twice these sort of board positions normally dole out was because of his relationship to then Vice President Joe Biden. It might have been horrible optics politically speaking but as the link above reveals nothing new for the family.
The owner of this particular company was at the time looking for famous people to be on his board and paying over-the-odds for their star-power, not because he was trying to solicit favors, but because he wanted his company to look stable at a time when the country of Ukraine was in political turmoil due to Russia biting chunks out of Crimea, and he decided to try to make his company look stable by filling his board with famous people. He was able to recruit people such as the ex-President of Poland, Hunter Biden etc, to give his company board some star-power, just as the average company might employ celebrities to appear in their ads.
So I see zero issue with Hunter taking the job. He was qualified, had done similar jobs before, and it was an appropriate job for him, and the reason the owner wanted celebrities was reasonable, not for political favors. Subsequently his father ended up taking actions that hurt Hunter's company, when VP Biden / American policy makers insisted that the corrupt Ukrainian investigator who had dropped the probe into Hunter's company be replaced with someone non-corrupt who would restart the probe. So even if anyone had hired Hunter hoping Hunter's father would give them favorable treatment (and there's zero evidence whatsoever this was their motivation), exactly the opposite ended up happening.
P.S. I don't support Biden and don't want him to win the primary. I think he was a particularly poor VP, and would make an especially poor president as he is obviously suffering negative effects from old age, and has a terrible (right-wing-leaning) voting record and policy proposals. But that's separate to issues about whether his son did anything wrong, and as far as I can see, there was nothing improper with regard to his son's conduct.Last edited by Starlight; 11-13-2019, 04:14 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by whag View PostIt's about as corrupt as Trump's nepotism and as much a non issue. Makes you wonder why Trump bothered to mention it in the phone call.
The bewildering part of Trump is why his supporters aren't more critical of his twin shots to the foot that brought us to these impeachment hearings. Without his demand for Comey's loyalty and subsequent firing, without Ukraine debacle he'd be skating to the next term. Look at how much energy he wastes defending himself.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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