Have Fun Storming the Castle!!

[firstfloor]

The storming is a tactic that demonstrates that Trumpco has already conceded that the facts condemn them, and all they can do now is attack the process.

[Cow Poke]

The storming is a tactic that demonstrates that Trumpco has already conceded that the facts condemn them, and all they can do now is attack the process.

Yes, that has to be it.

[Cow Poke]

...Guess you're confusing me with FF in your dotage, again...

Yeah, sorry about that, I always got the original Heckle and Jeckle confused, too.

[Juvenal]

Since Pelosi is right behind Pence in line, I'm not so sure Trump would do that - but there will be no end to motivation for those pushing impeachment to try their damnedest to pull down Pence as well.

[Mountain Man]

you have no idea what you are talking about.

Par for the course when it comes to Dimbulb.

[One Bad Pig]

You're suggesting Trump, the guy who's spending all his after-midnights this week rage-tweeting, will think things through, with an interest in preserving someone or something other than himself.

I'm suggesting that spiting Pelosi would trump dragging Pence down with him. Pelosi might not want the job, but I don't see Trump imagining that possibility.
You just want to prolong my terror, don't you?

[oxmixmudd]

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you have no idea what you are talking about.

What part are you castigating him for Bill. You can't bring cell phones into a SCIF. But normally, the consequences are more along the lines of confiscation and/or destruction of the phone, and loss of clearance (and therefore access) for repeat offenders. People do forget at times so It's not "go to jail, go immediately to jail". But then again, neither is it ok - and the penalties can be serious given malicious intent.

The problem here, of course, is that they did it consciously, willfully.




Jim

[oxmixmudd]

With Pence we would be back to just normal differences of opinion and policy. I doubt very much Pence is the sort that has mobster connections and would seek out back-channel diplomacy so he can strong arm needy nations into helping him defeat political opponents.

[Cow Poke]

With Pence we would be back to just normal differences of opinion and policy. I doubt very much Pence is the sort that has mobster connections and would seek out back-channel diplomacy so he can strong arm needy nations into helping him defeat political opponents.

The liberals would absolutely freak though, because he is clearly not prone to worship at the altar of the culture of death.

[JimL]

Agreed - I'm kinda surprised they went that far, cause it's a really stupid example -- if Trump did, in fact, murder somebody "in cold blood", he would not be able to stay in office very long at all.

According to Trump and his lawyers he can't be touched or investigated for any reason whatsoever while president. Let me see now, what would we name such a one, Oh that's it, a tyrant, a person who is above the law and can do anything at all that he pleases, including undermining democracy and committing treason.

[Mountain Man]

With Pence we would be back to just normal differences of opinion and policy.

Right, because the Democrats in the last few decades have shown themselves to be reasonable and willing to reach an equatable comprise.

Remember how awful they were to Bush? They would treat Pence even worse.

[Teallaura]

According to Trump and his lawyers he can't be touched or investigated for any reason whatsoever while president. Let me see now, what would we name such a one, Oh that's it, a tyrant, a person who is above the law and can do anything at all that he pleases, including undermining democracy and committing treason.

Jim, it's based in the Constitution. A president must either leave or be removed from office before being prosecuted.

A president CAN be prosecuted, but not while in office. This is nothing new and is regarded as settled law.

[lilpixieofterror]

What part are you castigating him for Bill. You can't bring cell phones into a SCIF. But normally, the consequences are more along the lines of confiscation and/or destruction of the phone, and loss of clearance (and therefore access) for repeat offenders. People do forget at times so It's not "go to jail, go immediately to jail". But then again, neither is it ok - and the penalties can be serious given malicious intent.

The problem here, of course, is that they did it consciously, willfully.




Jim

You do know that BtC works for Army Intelligence in the cyber intelligence division, right?

[lilpixieofterror]

Right, because the Democrats in the last few decades have shown themselves to be reasonable and willing to reach an equatable comprise.

Remember how awful they were to Bush? They would treat Pence even worse.

They accused Mitt Romney of being a Nazi, willing giving people cancer, and everything they accused Trump as being. The idea the left will suddenly play nice under a new Republican President is pure fantasy.

[Sam]

Jim, it's based in the Constitution. A president must either leave or be removed from office before being prosecuted.

A president CAN be prosecuted, but not while in office. This is nothing new and is regarded as settled law.

It's not settled law because it's an OLC opinion that's never been tested in court.

What's novel about the Trump attorneys' recent claim, regardless, is that neither the President nor his businesses can even be investigated while in office. The President could not be detained, the lawyers argue, if he committed a robbery, nor could the act be investigated as a criminal matter prior to impeachment and removal.

--Sam