The storming is a tactic that demonstrates that Trumpco has already conceded that the facts condemn them, and all they can do now is attack the process.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe storming is a tactic that demonstrates that Trumpco has already conceded that the facts condemn them, and all they can do now is attack the process.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post...Guess you're confusing me with FF in your dotage, again...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostYou're suggesting Trump, the guy who's spending all his after-midnights this week rage-tweeting, will think things through, with an interest in preserving someone or something other than himself.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]40421[/ATTACH]
you have no idea what you are talking about.
The problem here, of course, is that they did it consciously, willfully.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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With Pence we would be back to just normal differences of opinion and policy. I doubt very much Pence is the sort that has mobster connections and would seek out back-channel diplomacy so he can strong arm needy nations into helping him defeat political opponents.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWith Pence we would be back to just normal differences of opinion and policy. I doubt very much Pence is the sort that has mobster connections and would seek out back-channel diplomacy so he can strong arm needy nations into helping him defeat political opponents.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAgreed - I'm kinda surprised they went that far, cause it's a really stupid example -- if Trump did, in fact, murder somebody "in cold blood", he would not be able to stay in office very long at all.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWith Pence we would be back to just normal differences of opinion and policy.
Remember how awful they were to Bush? They would treat Pence even worse.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAccording to Trump and his lawyers he can't be touched or investigated for any reason whatsoever while president. Let me see now, what would we name such a one, Oh that's it, a tyrant, a person who is above the law and can do anything at all that he pleases, including undermining democracy and committing treason.
A president CAN be prosecuted, but not while in office. This is nothing new and is regarded as settled law."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat part are you castigating him for Bill. You can't bring cell phones into a SCIF. But normally, the consequences are more along the lines of confiscation and/or destruction of the phone, and loss of clearance (and therefore access) for repeat offenders. People do forget at times so It's not "go to jail, go immediately to jail". But then again, neither is it ok - and the penalties can be serious given malicious intent.
The problem here, of course, is that they did it consciously, willfully.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRight, because the Democrats in the last few decades have shown themselves to be reasonable and willing to reach an equatable comprise.
Remember how awful they were to Bush? They would treat Pence even worse."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostJim, it's based in the Constitution. A president must either leave or be removed from office before being prosecuted.
A president CAN be prosecuted, but not while in office. This is nothing new and is regarded as settled law.
What's novel about the Trump attorneys' recent claim, regardless, is that neither the President nor his businesses can even be investigated while in office. The President could not be detained, the lawyers argue, if he committed a robbery, nor could the act be investigated as a criminal matter prior to impeachment and removal.
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