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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAre you really so ignorant? If the Supreme Court refuses to hear a case, then the ruling of the lower court stands.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSo you agree then that it is obstruction of Congress and that the Congress can impeach the President for obstruction when he refuses to comply with Congressional subpoenas.
Impeachment is the remedy for dealing with the removal of a President, along with the next national election. If the Executive branch doesn't want to cooperate, they can appeal to the Judicial. Otherwise, the House can push forward with impeachment which, obviously, will go nowhere, given that the Senate is controlled by Republicans.
Like I've been telling you - it's all political.
Glad we have come to agreement.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou seem particularly out of it this morning -- snarkiness with zero substance.
Impeachment is the remedy for dealing with the removal of a President, along with the next national election. If the Executive branch doesn't want to cooperate, they can appeal to the Judicial. Otherwise, the House can push forward with impeachment which, obviously, will go nowhere, given that the Senate is controlled by Republicans.
Like I've been telling you - it's all political.
This is the kind of dishonest (or totally ignorant) poo you fling when you know you've said something really dumb or dishonest. Are you having a bad day, Jim?
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostBringing it to the court is just a delay tactic of the subject of the subpoena.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI asked you what happens if the court refuses to hear the case against a Congressional subpoena, and you said impeachment is the remedy for that.
Glad we agree.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, after all your stumbling around with "the courts", pretending you meant SCOTUS, and everything, you finally seemed to get it.
We don't, actually. Impeachment is the remedy, but the incredibly partisan Democrats are wielding it unnecessarily, after having made the case in the past that a very partisan impeachment is not justified.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou seem to be having trouble focusing, CP.
What you agreed to was that the remedy for the presidents non compliance with congressional subpoenas, i.e. for his obstruction, is impeachment.
feel better?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe Senators have to swear an oath to god before the Senate trial begins that they will be an impartial jurist, and yet Senator Moscow Mitch has already admitted that there is no way that the Senate will convict and also admitted that he is coordinating with the White House as to exactly how to best handle the process in the defense of the president.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIf there are so many examples, why did you pick such a bogus one?
Here's the problem --- you're trusting the word of Nadler - the incredibly partisan hypocrite who decried the abuse of impeachment before, but is pressing forward against every pronouncement he's made in the past. Nadler is a liar, and he sleeps through impeachment hearings, and he drools when he dozes.
There is absolutely nothing illegal in what McConnel said -- in order for something to be "lawless", they have to actually be breaking some laws.
Now, find a REAL example.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostAll the Repubs can do is attack the process and the personalities, because they already know, as well as the whole world knows, that Trump is guilty, and he is fighting only for is tarnished brand,
while filling his pockets with foreign money from dictators looking for a Trump favour.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View PostAll the Repubs can do is attack the process and the personalities, because they already know, as well as the whole world knows, that Trump is guilty, and he is fighting only for is tarnished brand, while filling his pockets with foreign money from dictators looking for a Trump favour.
But they've done considerably more than that, they've also attacked the lack of evidence and the fact that Democrats have never identified an actual crime to charge the President with.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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