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Take This Impeachment And Shove It...
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI'm attacking the messenger because the messenger is a fraud, not because his message can't be refuted. If you watched the testimony you'd know that the whole idea to investigate Biden was driven by this political hack, and that his reporting was full of lies or fake news if you will. Vindman, Kent, Fiona Hill, all under oath. You're problem, like MM, CP, rogue, et al, is that you live in that conservative bubble where they lie to you every day, and you just eat it up.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/vindman...ing-were-false"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAbout politics.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAbout politics.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostRepublicans have already accepted the fact that their dear leader, the POTUS, has committed bribery, and all they can do now is try to delegitimise the impeachment processes so that they can (as they surely will) let him off. That indeed will be a political act of considerable notoriety that will leave previous generations of noble Republicans, spinning in their graves.
This impeachment drive is a huge political bust for Democrats
and...
It's a sham.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThough, not a Republican, I'll point out that I'm not the one who de-legitimized the impeachment process - Schiff did that by starting the thing off with a grand lie of his own, then making himself judge, jury, witness corrector/instructor, media liaison... Remember when the Democrats promised they wouldn't do this if it were a partisan thing?
This impeachment drive is a huge political bust for Democrats
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It's a sham.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostTrump has not been impeached yet.
All this is deflection.
The Dems are simply not to be distracted by such tomfoolery. They know that Republicans will ignore the facts. They cannot sway the Senate but they have a chance with the voters.
He is, indeed, his own worst enemy.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostDude, someone who has no problem criticizing Trump for his faults on this forum is not what a bubble makes.
Someone who incessantly parrots "orange man bad" 24/7
and that Biden, Hillary, or any other politician from the democratic party can do no wrong
and to suggest otherwise is because they're susceptible to conservative propaganda conspiracies, fake journalist hacks, Russian propaganda or whatever is the very definition of not just someone in a bubble, but a pretty psychotic one at that.Last edited by JimL; 12-02-2019, 04:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNot, yet, and the Democrats seem to be rather confused as to whether or how to proceed.Last edited by firstfloor; 12-02-2019, 05:13 PM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOf course they're arguing process, because until there is a fair and impartial process in place, arguing the facts is pointless.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLet's put it this way: it's futile to haggle over price per pound when dealing with a merchant who blatantly puts his thumb on the scale.
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That's the CURRENT (as of a few hours ago) plan.
Yes, the Democrats, after promising there will be no partisan impeachment, are about to shoot themselves in both feet while both feet are in their mouths.
It will be a test of American governance like no other. Will the Senate live up to the founders hopes or not.
Will Trump break the Constitution.
It will either be a wonderful triumph or a disastrous end to the American Century.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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