Take This Impeachment And Shove It...

[JimL]

He'll be going to "the home" before long, where he can receive proper care.

You mean the White House? I'll be happy with that, though i'd prefer Warren or Sanders. But anyone would be preferable to Trump, don't you agree?

[seanD]

Yes, he knows the situation, i.e. that the charges against Biden are Trumps fake news, but he is going to do Trumps bidding anyway and for solely political reasons stab the man in the back that he once defined as the nicest man god ever created, or words to that effect. Typical Republican.

That makes no sense. Graham has never been a fan of Trump. There's no reason whatsoever for him to do this, unless he knows what we know -- that Shokin was fired because of Biden a month before he ordered his office to seize Zlochevsky's assets and that the claim he was lax in the investigation is a lie, thus Biden did exactly what Trump is accused of doing. Only instead of the retarded accusation that Trump was looking for dirt on Biden because he was somehow threatened by a man whose cognitive function is clearly feeble (and would have in no way kept up in a heated debate like Hillary did), Biden did it to cover his son's behind.

[JimL]

That makes no sense. Graham has never been a fan of Trump. There's no reason whatsoever for him to do this, unless he knows what we know -- that Shokin was fired because of Biden a month before he ordered his office to seize Zlochevsky's assets and that the claim he was lax in the investigation is a lie, thus Biden did exactly what Trump is accused of doing. Only instead of the retarded accusation that Trump was looking for dirt on Biden because he was somehow threatened by a man whose cognitive function is clearly feeble (and would have in no way kept up in a heated debate like Hillary did), Biden did it to cover his son's behind.

Actually the evidence is to the contrary, Burisma wasn't even under investigation at the time Biden was there, and Biden, once again, was not in Ukraine on his own business, he was there doing Obama's business, and only Obama can withhold aid. But Trump wasn't necessarily looking for dirt on Biden anyway, because he too knows there was no dirt to be found, he just wanted Zelensky to publicly announce on CNN that he was investigating Biden so he could use that lie to slander Biden with during the campaign.

[seanD]

Actually the evidence is to the contrary, Burisma wasn't even under investigation at the time Biden was there, and Biden, once again, was not in Ukraine on his own business, he was there doing Obama's business, and only Obama can withhold aid. But Trump wasn't necessarily looking for dirt on Biden anyway, because he too knows there was no dirt to be found, he just wanted Zelensky to publicly announce on CNN that he was investigating Biden so he could use that lie to slander Biden with during the campaign.

Biden is on public record admitting he threatened to withhold the money, so I don't even know what you're on about in that regard. Whether he had the power to do it or not, apparently it worked. And that Shokin was lax with the investigation is what the Obama admin and their allies in the EU were arguing about Shokin. Yet this would be a natural cover for an excuse to have him ousted, wouldn't it? Two sides say two different things, and it's a matter of he said/she said, until we get to 2016. Fact of the matter is, Shokin ordered his department to seize Zlochevsky's assets on Feb 2016, which clearly shows he was getting aggressive, one month before he was fired. This justifies an investigation of quid pro quo on Biden's part, let alone just the conflict of interest with his crackhead son Hunter, thus justifies Trump's phone call. The fact we all know Ukraine had a shady and corrupt history also justifies the phone call. The theory you're now arguing that Trump actually "knew" Biden was innocent yet risked all this anyway just to get it in the paper is too hilarious for words. If there's even a sliver of me taking you serious, that's very quickly slipping away.

[Mountain Man]

Actually the evidence is to the contrary, Burisma wasn't even under investigation at the time Biden was there...

You are greatly misinformed. Shokin was actively and aggressively investigating Burisma, and Hunter and has associates appealed to the Obama administration to get the heat off. Shortly after, Joe showed up and extorted the Ukraine government into firing Shokin, which he has openly boasted about in front of TV cameras.

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/

[Cow Poke]

You mean the White House?

Only a liberal would confuse the White House with a nursing home.

[JimL]

You are greatly misinformed. Shokin was actively and aggressively investigating Burisma, and Hunter and has associates appealed to the Obama administration to get the heat off. Shortly after, Joe showed up and extorted the Ukraine government into firing Shokin, which he has openly boasted about in front of TV cameras.

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/

John Solomon, though he pretends to be, he isn't a journalist, he's nothing more than a propagandist shill for the republican party. So if Solomon is your source then you are greatly misinformed, a fact which you demonstrate to be true time and time again.

[JimL]

Biden is on public record admitting he threatened to withhold the money, so I don't even know what you're on about in that regard. Whether he had the power to do it or not, apparently it worked. And that Shokin was lax with the investigation is what the Obama admin and their allies in the EU were arguing about Shokin. Yet this would be a natural cover for an excuse to have him ousted, wouldn't it? Two sides say two different things, and it's a matter of he said/she said, until we get to 2016. Fact of the matter is, Shokin ordered his department to seize Zlochevsky's assets on Feb 2016, which clearly shows he was getting aggressive, one month before he was fired. This justifies an investigation of quid pro quo on Biden's part, let alone just the conflict of interest with his crackhead son Hunter, thus justifies Trump's phone call. The fact we all know Ukraine had a shady and corrupt history also justifies the phone call. The theory you're now arguing that Trump actually "knew" Biden was innocent yet risked all this anyway just to get it in the paper is too hilarious for words. If there's even a sliver of me taking you serious, that's very quickly slipping away.

You, like MM, are getting your fake news from (John Solomon) fake journalist.

[Mountain Man]

John Solomon, though he pretends to be, he isn't a journalist, he's nothing more than a propagandist shill for the republican party. So if Solomon is your source then you are greatly misinformed, a fact which you demonstrate to be true time and time again.

You obviously didn't read the article. It is thoroughly researched with original documents and named sources.

But since you are claiming otherwise, go ahead and show what Mr. Solomon got wrong and the facts to prove it.

[firstfloor]

You are greatly misinformed. Shokin was actively and aggressively investigating Burisma, and Hunter and has associates appealed to the Obama administration to get the heat off. Shortly after, Joe showed up and extorted the Ukraine government into firing Shokin, which he has openly boasted about in front of TV cameras.

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/

Garbage, most likely Russian disinformation.

[Mountain Man]

Garbage, most likely Russian disinformation.

I'll tell you the same thing I told Jimmy: If you could trouble yourself to actually show which parts of Mr. Solomon's report are in error then we might have something to talk about it.

[seanD]

You, like MM, are getting your fake news from (John Solomon) fake journalist.

Attack the messenger when you can't refute the message. The last desperate strategy in any debate.

[firstfloor]

I'll tell you the same thing I told Jimmy: If you could trouble yourself to actually show which parts of Mr. Solomon's report are in error then we might have something to talk about it.

[firstfloor]

It is about time that Republicans took the danger seriously.

WaPo

[seanD]

How does this information about Shokin benefit Russia? It's not related to the Crowdstrike issue, even though Trump included both issues in the same phone call.