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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostHave you heard the Dingell story? Trump is a monster.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI remember the last post Trump elections, democrats won across the board, including in red states.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostHave you heard the Dingell story? Trump is a monster.
It's the kind of thing I wish he wouldn't do, but I'm not as concerned the stupid things he says as the important promises he keeps.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Obstruction of Congress is NOT obstruction of justice - nor can the case be made here. The precedent was set in the Nixon inquiry - the House HAD recourse to the Court but did not take it. The Exec questioned the legitimacy of those particular subpoenas (under Wilkinson) and the House declined to defend their legitimacy and seek relief.
You can't make a case for obstruction of anything when a party makes a demand, the second party declines to comply with cause and the first party fails to seek relief - given the coequal nature of the branches, this is what we have here."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIs it OOJ when the investigation itself is rigged? How is fighting against an injust investigation an obstruction of justice. It would be more of an obstruction of injustice.
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Also, can you please cite the law it says that the President is not allowed to seek a ruling by the Supreme Court, you know the actual JUSTICE branch of the US Government?
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOr bribing, or extorting a foreign government, or asking a foreign government to investigate a U.S citizen, or withholding congressionally appropriated aid from a fledgling democracy endangering our own national security simply in order to help himself politically. And that is only this specific case. Trump is also guilty of "obstruction of justice" in both this and the Mueller investigation no matter what they call it. Half of his corrupt campaign staff is already in prison, on their way to prison, under investigation, or resigned in disgrace. You Trumpsters are complicit, that's all there is to it.
You rebels are complicit in a hysterically bad coup attempt, that's all there is to it."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat's right, they couldn't wait, the reason for which they made clear. The crime is ongoing, and is meant to effect the 2020 election. But of course reason it seems is not a function applicable to republicans, so I'm not surprised you don't understand that.
Your heroes are letting you down - and yes, we told you so."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBring it on then! But of course that's easy for you to say, because you know that's not what Trump and his Senate allies are going to do."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostIt looks like the democrats did well here. Instead of going to court to compel the witnesses, they just hit Trump with an obstruction of congress which is a crime according to s 1505
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim
ETA: Which is still, by the by, under "obstruction of justice", not the Democrats' phantom "obstruction of congress" charge.Last edited by One Bad Pig; 12-19-2019, 12:08 PM.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, they did what was right, CP.
Well there are none so blind as those who choose not to see, i.e Trumpsters.
Well, I'm afraid there is no help for you Trumpsters, but we're trying."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostIt looks like the democrats did well here. Instead of going to court to compel the witnesses, they just hit Trump with an obstruction of congress which is a crime according to s 1505
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelimThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostIt looks like the democrats did well here. Instead of going to court to compel the witnesses, they just hit Trump with an obstruction of congress which is a crime according to s 1505
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWaiting for the courts would have taken years, CP. Just look at the McGahn case. Appeal, appeal, appeal. It's how Trump has always operated, it's his corrupt forte.
Quit making excuses for your failing coup attempt. We told you for months that this would happen when it reached the Senate, you said repeatedly that it didn't matter, and here we are. Deal with it."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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