CNN Ratings Collapse

[Teallaura]

Meanwhile...





So, from the Clinton News Network to the Hate Trump Network.

Hey! Can we hook up generators to this? CNN may be able to help stop global climate warming change just with its ratings free fall!!

[rogue06]

The irony of somebody who by and large supports Trump criticizing someone else for poor diplomacy is not lost on me.

Still, the primary role of an ambassador to be diplomatic.

[Sparko]

Still, the primary role of an ambassador to be diplomatic.

Has anyone read the actual words he used?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...unctional.html

Reading that article it is clear he was not being diplomatic or "factual" he was ranting his opinion.



Such language is not diplomatic, but opinionated and inflammatory.

[Mountain Man]

An official government memo making references to Terminator? That comes across as rather unprofessional. What if the reader has never seen that movie and has no idea what he's referring to?

[firstfloor]

Has anyone read the actual words he used?

Such language is not diplomatic, but opinionated and inflammatory.

By saying he won't deal with Sir Kim Darroch any more, Donald Trump is apparently all but declaring the ambassador to be persona non grata. That is the formal legal process by which a host government expels a foreign diplomat.

The key question now is what the president means by the word "deal". If the royal "we" used by Mr Trump means that his entire administration will no longer deal with Sir Kim or any of his staff then the British government may have to decide to fast track the retirement of their man in Washington.

Sir Kim, who is an honourable man and was stepping down anyway in a few months, may decide to resign. If, however, Mr Trump merely means he won't deal personally with Sir Kim then the ambassador may stay on until the new prime minister can make his own appointment.

- BBC News

[Mountain Man]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...dministration/

[Mountain Man]

"Sir Kim, who is an honourable man..."

-BBC News

The word "honorable" must mean something different in the UK than it does in the US.

[Teallaura]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...dministration/

This is why diplomats should be careful with their language. One stupid rant and he's effectively lost his job.

[JimL]

Exactly, that is why we have ambassadors, to frankly report back exactly what they see is going on. The leak is the problem, not the ambassador. But am I surprised at his report? Absolutely not! We don't even need to be that close to see the truth in that report.

[oxmixmudd]

This is why diplomats should be careful with their language. One stupid rant and he's effectively lost his job.

So Trump exacts his vengence on a person who insulted him.

Who knew?

[Teallaura]

So Trump exacts his vengence on a person who insulted him.

Who knew?

Do you normally meet with a client and call them names? The ambassador himself, intentionally or not, has soured the working relationship. You wouldn't put up with that nonsense from a used car salesman, why should anyone tolerate it from an ambassador?

[Mountain Man]

So Trump exacts his vengence on a person who insulted him.

Who knew?

Vengeance? No. He just doesn't want to deal with someone who obviously holds him in contempt, and why should he be expected to?

[rogue06]

An official government memo making references to Terminator? That comes across as rather unprofessional. What if the reader has never seen that movie and has no idea what he's referring to?

I'm sure that this was hardly the first time that a cultural reference was included in an official government memo

[oxmixmudd]

Do you normally meet with a client and call them names? The ambassador himself, intentionally or not, has soured the working relationship. You wouldn't put up with that nonsense from a used car salesman, why should anyone tolerate it from an ambassador?

This was a private communication between himself and his government. It was not meant for public consumption nor was it meant for Trump to hear.

Someone knew its contents and knew it would be destructive to US, UK relations to reveal it.

So here is a question for you.

Why are you supporting Donald Trump as he joins with the leaker in allowing and encouraging further erosion of relations with one of our most important allies?

Here is another question for you:

What sorts of entities and governments stand to benefit from the erosion of US, UK relations?

Jim

[Teallaura]

This was a private communication between himself and his government. It was not meant for public consumption nor was it meant for Trump to hear.

Someone knew its contents and knew it would be destructive US, UK relationsto reveal it.

So here is a question fir you.

Why are you supporting Donald Trump as he joins with the leaker in allowing and encouraging further erosion of relations with one of our most important allies?

Here is another question for you:

What sorts of entities and governments stand to benefit from the erosion of US, UK relations?

Jim

Private gossip rarely is. Every diplomat knows full well his work is some other government's intel - and that anything can be leaked.

Only fools ignore facts. There's a huge gulf between malicious sabotage and whistle blowing - but it makes no difference once the truth comes out.

So why are you supporting a demonstrably incompetent foreign ambassador? Why do you support the interests of the UK over the US? It cannot serve the US' interests to keep an ambassador who demonstrates bile toward the administration. Heck, it doesn't serve the UK's interests unless he's a spy or something. Trump saved them the embarrassment of recalling their ambassador.

Several-which is why it's to the UK's advantage to get rid of a compromised diplomat quickly. Trump has given them two outs: refusing to work with the guy making leaving him here pointless and not casting any blame on the UK government.

I get that you hate Trump but no president would or should sit still for that. The guy is lucky - Teddy Roosevelt would have shot him!