Sri Lanka terror attack; over 200 dead

[firstfloor]

[rogue06]

Secular leftism brought us Stalin's purges (1.45 to 2 million killed) and Holodomor (a.k.a., Terror Famine with 3.3 to 7.5 million killed), Mao's Great Leap Forward (18 to 56 million killed) and Cultural Revolution (1.5 to 3 million killed^[1]), Pol Pot's Killing Fields (2 to 2.5 million killed) and North Korean concentration camps (1 to 1.5 million killed) and terror starvation campaign from 1993 to 2008 (up to 1 million killed).

Maybe that is where we should start.






1. post-Mao leaders acknowledged that 100 million people, one-ninth of the entire population, suffered in one way or another.

[firstfloor]

Secular leftism brought us Stalin's purges (1.45 to 2 million killed) and Holodomor (a.k.a., Terror Famine with 3.3 to 7.5 million killed), Mao's Great Leap Forward (18 to 56 million killed) and Cultural Revolution (1.5 to 3 million killed^[1]), Pol Pot's Killing Fields (2 to 2.5 million killed) and North Korean concentration camps (1 to 1.5 million killed) and terror starvation campaign from 1993 to 2008 (up to 1 million killed).

Maybe that is where we should start.






1. post-Mao leaders acknowledged that 100 million people, one-ninth of the entire population, suffered in one way or another.

[Mountain Man]

Secularism believes that man is the ultimate authority, and so totalitarianism is a natural fit.

[rogue06]

Is "religious"?

In any case secular leftism exists and as we can see has resulted in many tens of millions of lives being snuffed out to further secular left wing dreams and policies.

[oxmixmudd]

The issue is not religion, but the base nature of mankind. Since most religions are attempts to quell or redirect those primal urges, you are focused in the wrong direction.

To truly fix the problem you must first recognize its source.

Most philosophies based in atheism come up short in that regard.

Jim

[oxmixmudd]

Compare how this story is being covered by the media to the mosque attacks in New Zealand.

This line of thought is just weird. Its been front page, lead story since sunday. They sre reporting the prime suspect caught on video is ISIS.

They have covered the shock and horror of this attack on a holy day, of the christian worshippers and children just trying to worship in peace whose lives were snuffed out unfairly by these terrorists.

What more exactly are you looking for?

Jim

[firstfloor]

The issue is not religion, but the base nature of mankind. Since most religions are attempts to quell or redirect those primal urges, you are focused in the wrong direction.

To truly fix the problem you must first recognize its source.

Most philosophies based in atheism come up short in that regard.

Jim

[seer]

How do you get equality without God? People are not by nature equal in any real sense.

[Mountain Man]

How do you get equality without God? People are not by nature equal in any real sense.

Sure they are. Some are just more equal than others.

[rogue06]

This line of thought is just weird. Its been front page, lead story since sunday. They sre reporting the prime suspect caught on video is ISIS.

They have covered the shock and horror of this attack on a holy day, of the christian worshippers and children just trying to worship in peace whose lives were snuffed out unfairly by these terrorists.

What more exactly are you looking for?

Jim

It seems to be far less covered than the New Zealand attack, but maybe that's the "man bites dog" aspect since Islamists slaughtering hundreds to thousands in an attack seems to be anything but extraordinary

And for Roy...

Source: Yes, 'Easter Worshipper' Was Intentional. Yes, It Matters. Here's Why.

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And look at post #43.

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Nothing even remotely like it from Hillary or others on the left, but rather pap about "Easter worshippers" and a glaringly obvious lack of a specific condemnation of "Muslim terrorists." Just a bland generic statement against violence in general.

[oxmixmudd]

Religions, some of them, give people a sense of superiority. Supremacist thinking is what makes one despise the others.

So does atheism - or haven't you noticed? So does sports, or music, or art. Pride is endemic to humanity, as is racism and tribalism. Religions may feed it, or they may fight it. But the problem is in humankind itself. Those religions that teach love, mercy, kindness, respect for their fellowman, insomuch as the participants actually respond to those messages, act to reduce the incidence of such things in humanity. But only in those that truly embrace those teachings and put them into practice.

No - you are horribly mistaken. The idea of salvation, or more accurately the true work of Christ in a person that produces salvation, does not produce these things, but rather the failure of those claiming to have it but not understanding what it actually means, those not embracing the true lordship of Christ and renouncing their own evil, be it pride or desire or whatever would cause us to do evil.

The Bible tells that evil (sin) in mankind becomes its most evil self when it takes that which is good and uses it for evil. That is what you see - the evil that lies latent in all of us taking that which should be good, and which should result in better humanity, and using it for it's own purpose.

That is why the Christian faith recognizes the need for each individual to find a personal transformation in Christ, and to DIE to the old ways, the ways of that basic nature that would use good for evil to feed itself. And only some succeed. Many wear the teachings of Christ like clothing, swapping out bits and pieces for convenience. But that - again - is the human selfish, base nature that the religion - in this case Christianity - aims to change and make better.

Christ teaches that to love our neighbor* as our self and to serve the lord with all ones heart and soul summarized the entire Bible. That if one does those two things in purity and innocence, one will not live outside any goodness, any Godliness. But none of us can actually do that. We are always in one way or another seeking what we want over what is best for others and ourselves. And that is where evil finds its root. And that is why we need the transforming power of love of Christ himself - to make it possible for us to be transformed from that person that is a slave to desire and pride and other evils to change and become better.

But without the teachings that counter that base nature, the world would be a much worse place. Without those striving to be what Christ actually taught us to be, you could not even imagine how much worse off we would all be.

Jim

ETA:

*and He defines neighbor as anyone, even the most despised outcast (see the parable of the Samaritan)

[oxmixmudd]

It seems to be far less covered than the New Zealand attack, but maybe that's the "man bites dog" aspect since Islamists slaughtering hundreds to thousands in an attack seems to be anything but extraordinary

And for Roy...

Source: Yes, 'Easter Worshipper' Was Intentional. Yes, It Matters. Here's Why.

Source

© Copyright Original Source

And look at post #43.

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Nothing even remotely like it from Hillary or others on the left, but rather pap about "Easter worshippers" and a glaringly obvious lack of a specific condemnation of "Muslim terrorists." Just a bland generic statement against violence in general.

I agree with you on the assessment of 'easter worhippers' vs Christians worhipping on Easter.

But as far as the news coverage itself, I don't really see it being any 'less' than what was seen from new zealand. I did notice that today for some reason Fox did not make this its lead story, whereas CNN did.

Jim

[Mountain Man]

I agree with you on the assessment of 'easter worhippers' vs Christians worhipping on Easter.

But as far as the news coverage itself, I don't really see it being any 'less' than what was seen from new zealand. I did notice that today for some reason Fox did not make this its lead story, whereas CNN did.

Jim

Perhaps it's confirmation bias on my part, but coverage doesn't seem to be at the fever pitch it was with the New Zealand attack.

[firstfloor]

I was sorry to see the gloomy picture which you drew of the affairs of your Country in your letter of December; but I hope events have not turned out so badly as you then apprehended. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes, that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far, that we should never again see their religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of Society.

George Washington
Progress is slow!