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Originally posted by Tassman View PostRather than challenging the gentry on slavery and urging manumission (as did the Quakers and Methodists), they began to interpret the Bible as supporting the practice of slavery and encouraged good paternalistic practices by slaveholders.
IOW:
This is totally in keeping with my argument that that scripture is interpreted according to the social mores of the day.
This has been true of many Christians at one time justifying slavery via scripture (see above), women being subordinated to men and etc.
And most recently homosexuality, as per the OP re Buttigieg.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Tassman, because you are either incredibly forgetful, or incredibly dishonest, let me remind you what you had said...
Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe Southern Baptist Convention was founded in 1845 in the Southern United States for the very purpose
Originally posted by Tassman View PostYes, it is the interpretation of scripture that makes the difference, e.g. the Southern Baptists once interpreted scripture in such a way as to justify slavery, renouncing it officially only in 1995.
As you so often do, you get your big empty head filled with hateful untrue rhetoric, and you just keep repeating the same old thing over and over.
False. But, with ZERO regard for the truth, same thing over and over...
Originally posted by Tassman View PostMost probably, if you'd been around in the 19th century, you would have supported slavery as God's will, as the Southern Baptist Convention did. OR in the mid 20th century supported miscegenation for the same reason, namely "God alone has decided these things".
Now, you can keep claiming your argument was X, and I'll keep posting what your argument actually was.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Here's another incredible WHOPPER from the Tassman anti-Christian bigotry campaign....
Originally posted by Tassman View PostMy argument was that the interpretation of scripture varies e.g. the likes of Buttigieg, as a practicing Christian, interprets scripture in such a way that homosexuality is OK with a loving God.
Is it even POSSIBLE for you to say something like, "OK, you're right, I should have said....."? No, you just attempt to distort the record by claiming you said something else, and argue like a used car salesman at the end of the month.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
That does NOT answer the challenge, and it does NOT support your ignorant claim that it was the Southern Baptist Convention did this. There was no official Southern Baptist teaching, policy, dogma, doctrine.... And it does NOT show that there was any indication that there was an offer of compromise.
Whether or not this was official SBC Policy or merely commonly accepted practice makes little difference. This is what actually happened, as reinforced by the above historian.
And this has been my argument throughout, namely that Christians (not just slave--owners) have a history of interpreting scripture according to the social mores of the day.
That wasn't your argument.That wasn't your argument.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHere's another incredible WHOPPER from the Tassman anti-Christian bigotry campaign....
You have yet to back up this claim - from all appearances, Buttigieg doesn't "interpret" scripture with regards to his decision to live in sin - he totally ignores it.
(And the majority of US Christians nowadays, according to Pew Research, have a similar understanding of scripture re homosexuality.)Last edited by Tassman; 05-09-2019, 12:28 AM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostChristine Leigh Heyrman, makes the point blah blah blah
He's touted as a "practicing Christian", yet he appears to only attend Church occasionally, has no regard for the Bible, and ignores anything in it that speaks against his conduct.
And, yeah, as you suggested, just like Trump.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Which proves he ignores what the Bible actually says and makes up his own jackass theology, and suckers fools into believing him. He could as well say "It was God who Made Me a Child Molester" or alcoholic or kleptomaniac...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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BACK ON TOPIC again...
From an opinion piece in Bloomberg - What Would Jesus Do? Pete Buttigieg Has No Idea
Actually, it's his version of "faith" that might do that, because he tends to simply ignore the parts of the Bible he doesn't like, and make up his own version of Jesus.
Then there's this part...
Actually, the basic mistake of what liberal Christians like Mayor Pete is that they tend to cherry pick the things the want Jesus to say, ignoring statements like "go and sin no more". Or the fact that Jesus had some harsh words about those who would harm a child, "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones, and "Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven".
Meanwhile, Mayor Pete defends third trimester abortion. Third trimester is WELL beyond the "blob of tissue" claimed by some, even here on Tweb. Only 10% of Americans support that extremist view.
So, while Mayor Pete claims to be reluctant to criticize the faith of others, he does exactly that.
He appears to rarely attend Church
It will be interesting to see, if and when his tax returns are made public, how much he believes in giving to charity
He has no regard for the Bible as authoritative
He doesn't base his decision to live a sinful lifestyle on his own interpretation of the Bible (as Tassman has repeatedly claimed) - he simply ignores it
He creates his own version of Jesus who is not just loving and accepting, but quite tolerant of sin
The loony left loves him
The anti-Christian bigotry society accepts him as their own
It's not looking so good for Mayor Pete's 'faith'. Faith in what? Or whom?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Franklin Graham Delivers More Biblical Truth to Gay Democrat Pete Buttigieghttps://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politic...pete-buttigieg
[fair warning, this is one of those news articles formats that I hate, someone just repeating other people's tweets. But it gets the point accross]
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhich proves he ignores what the Bible actually says and makes up his own jackass theology, and suckers fools into believing him. He could as well say "It was God who Made Me a Child Molester" or alcoholic or kleptomaniac...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYet the majority of US Christians agree with Buttigieg according to Pew Research. So are they all making up their "own jackass theology", or merely reinterpreting scripture according to the social mores of today as has been the case throughout history.Last edited by seer; 05-10-2019, 06:35 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYet the majority of US Christians agree with Buttigieg according to Pew Research.
So are they all making up their "own jackass theology", or merely reinterpreting scripture according to the social mores of today as has been the case throughout history.
You are dishonest in conflating "interpretation" of scripture with a total IGNORING of it. And all you're doing is proving what an insolent jackass you are.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYet the majority of US Christians agree with Buttigieg according to Pew Research. So are they all making up their "own jackass theology", or merely reinterpreting scripture according to the social mores of today as has been the case throughout history."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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There is sometimes ambiguity in the texts which the unscrupulous exploit to sway the credulous, sometimes the ambiguity will be misapplied by mistake. Sometimes there is no ambiguity and the text will simply be turned into a dog's breakfast - and that will be considered believable by people with an agenda.
In the case of slavery, there is some ambiguity which takes a lot of effort to resolve. In the case of women in positions of leadership, there is some ambiguity which can be resolved with almost no effort. In the case of homosexual relationships, there is no ambiguity ... it is not approved for Christians, which means that a Christian has no business engaging in or giving even tacit approval for the practice..1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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