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Originally posted by Adrift View PostThe only reason I can see him bringing them up over and over and over again is because they're currently the largest Protestant denomination in the US (as though that had anything to do with them splitting initially), and maybe because he think it'll somehow stick in your craw for being a member of the SBC? I don't know. It's weird.
But, I also don't really know, and agree it's weird.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostPeople have responded to Tassman on this so often, and so thoroughly that I'm surprised anyone bothers engaging him anymore. I'd be surprised if there hasn't been a month that he hasn't posted some sort of screed against "Evangelicals" and specifically "Southern Baptists" and their connection to slavery. He's obsessed with this argument. And that argument was destroyed well before TWeb's crash.
At it's founding in 1845, the SBC had 350,000 members, approx. 130,000 of whom were black. The growth of the SBC was slow until the turn of the century.
Perhaps ironically, the largest denomination in the slave-holding South was the Methodist Episcopal Church, which also split over slavery, with the Methodist Episcopal Church, South claiming in 1859 511,601 whites and 197,000 blacks (mostly slaves) and 4,200 Native Americans. And contrary to Tassman's repeated claims, 19th century Evangelicals often spearheaded abolitionist movements. The Evangelical/Fundamentalist movement that he likely has in mind in his diatribes didn't really take root until the early 20th century.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWell since Tassman said that morality is just a function of society, he has no real argument against slavery to begin with. It just happened to be what society thought was OK back then, so it wasn't wrong or immoral at all.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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FIFY n/c
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostPeople have responded to Tassman on this so often, and so thoroughly that I'm surprised anyone bothers engaging him anymore. I'd be surprised if there hasn't been a month that he hasn't posted some sort of screed against "Evangelicals" and specifically "Southern Baptists" and their connection to slavery. He's obsessed with this argument. And that argument was destroyed well before TWeb's crash.
At it's founding in 1845, the SBC had 350,000 members, approx. 130,000 of whom were black. The growth of the SBC was slow until the turn of the century.
Perhaps ironically, the largest denomination in the slave-holding South was the Methodist Episcopal Church, which also split over slavery, with the Methodist Episcopal Church, South claiming in 1859 511,601 whites and 197,000 blacks (mostly slaves) and 4,200 Native Americans. And contrary to Tassman's repeated claims, 19th century Evangelicals often spearheaded abolitionist movements. The Evangelical/Fundamentalist movement that he likely has in mind in his diatribes didn't really take root until the early 20th century.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPersonally, I think he's driven by hate. He's an anti-Christian bigot. He's pro-homosexual and pro-abortion, and many (most?) Evangelical Christians believe both of those practices are wrong. He has to find some justification for his hatred, so he's living in the past.
But, I also don't really know, and agree it's weird.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo what - he raised big bucks, goofus!Other than being homosexual, what are his qualifications for running the country?
OTOH, unlike Trump, Buttigieg is well-educated, highly intelligent and a veteran who served a seven-month tour as a counterintelligence officer in Afghanistan. Plus he's experienced in government at the municipal level. In short he's well qualified to run the country, unlike the immoral buffoon who's there now.Last edited by Tassman; 07-03-2019, 11:42 PM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwow, how many of us do you think were alive in the 1800's Tassy? Same ones huh?
It took them long enough to realize the error of their ways.
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That's nonsense. Perhaps they had not formally renounced it until then, but that doesn't mean it was "officially" in favor of segregation up until that point. Or can you point to any official statements of the church in the 1990-1994 range (when you claim they had the official position of being in favor of segregation) that state a preference for segregation?
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThat's nonsense. Perhaps they had not formally renounced it until then, but that doesn't mean it was "officially" in favor of segregation up until that point. Or can you point to any official statements of the church in the 1990-1994 range (when you claim they had the official position of being in favor of segregation) that state a preference for segregation?
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThat's nonsense. Perhaps they had not formally renounced it until then, but that doesn't mean it was "officially" in favor of segregation up until that point.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThat's nonsense. Perhaps they had not formally renounced it until then, but that doesn't mean it was "officially" in favor of segregation up until that point. Or can you point to any official statements of the church in the 1990-1994 range (when you claim they had the official position of being in favor of segregation) that state a preference for segregation?Last edited by Adrift; 07-04-2019, 01:48 AM.
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The calls for his resignation are from his constituents who likely know him the best whereas the big bucks comes from those who know little about him but they are enamoured by the fact that he's openly gay.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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And to add that MLK Jr. He helped form the Southern Baptist Leadership Conference -- something that should be kept in mind when Tas or little jimmy bring up the Civil Rights movement.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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