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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostDemocracy can make people get along.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostThere's also not many Americans that want Roe overturned, the transgendered to be banned from the military, for the drug war to continue, for a wall to be built, or for current gun laws to remain stagnant, but that hasn't stopped the Republicans any.Last edited by rogue06; 06-12-2019, 10:18 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAs far as I know, Trump reevaluated many of his social positions long before running for president, and he's been admirably steadfast and consistent in maintaining them, so I'm not sure that counts as a flip-flop where a politician says thing today and another tomorrow depending on which way the political winds are blowing.
There are videos of him praising Clinton just two or three years before running, going on about socially liberal policies, and at times going so far as to support gun control.
The only thing the guy has remained consistent on is immigration and tariffs. Everything else he has flipped on a dozen times, sometimes within days.
Let's be real: the guy's a lair. It's cool if his sincerity doesn't matter to you, so long as he does what you want, but be honest about that, and don't pretend you can't see that he's a liar.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostDude, it's all fake. He's not sincere at all.
There are videos of him praising Clinton just two or three years before running, going on about socially liberal policies, and at times going so far as to support gun control.
The only thing the guy has remained consistent on is immigration and tariffs. Everything else he has flipped on a dozen times, sometimes within days.
Let's be real: the guy's a lair. It's cool if his sincerity doesn't matter to you, so long as he does what you want, but be honest about that, and don't pretend you can't see that he's a liar.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostDude, it's all fake. He's not sincere at all.
There are videos of him praising Clinton just two or three years before running, going on about socially liberal policies, and at times going so far as to support gun control.
The only thing the guy has remained consistent on is immigration and tariffs. Everything else he has flipped on a dozen times, sometimes within days.
Let's be real: the guy's a lair. It's cool if his sincerity doesn't matter to you, so long as he does what you want, but be honest about that, and don't pretend you can't see that he's a liar.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI will note that a significant majority do want to see significant restrictions on abortions, acutely modifying Roe, really don't care or think about transgendered in the military, and are not eager to see the government confiscating firearms ETA: and would like to see the current laws on the books enforced. As for the drug war, there are an awful lot of conservatives onboard for at least decriminalizing if not legalizing marijuana, and favoring treatment options over incarceration.
There's a far right that is out of sync with mainstream America, just like there's a far left that is. They are taking over the Republican party like the progressives did to the DNC, and it's fatal mistake for Republicans to think that only Roy Moore is "too conservative".
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPersonally, I'm so tired of politicians and their "positions" - to me, it's FAR more important what they actually do than what they say now, or in the past.
We often trade in monsters we know, for monsters we don't know.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostPersonally, I'm so tired of politicians and their "positions" - to me, it's FAR more important what they actually do than what they say now, or in the past.
I will never forget how George Stephanopoulos proclaimed on CNN that "[Clinton] has kept all of the promises he intended to keep" while still his senior advisor for policy and strategy.
That should have been a wake up call.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostYeah, but you're talking about the extreme left wing.
There's a far right that is out of sync with mainstream America, just like there's a far left that is. They are taking over the Republican party like the progressives did to the DNC, and it's fatal mistake for Republicans to think that only Roy Moore is "too conservative".
And let's not forget how the Democrat Party is now home to those who are openly anti-Semitic.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAs far as I know, Trump reevaluated many of his social positions long before running for president, and he's been admirably steadfast and consistent in maintaining them, so I'm not sure that counts as a flip-flop where a politician says one thing today and another tomorrow depending on which way the political winds are blowing.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostDude, it's all fake. He's not sincere at all.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostCurrently it seems that avowed Socialists like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are not only not considered too liberal for Democrats but are now seen as the party's base. Just look at how they are pandered to -- something Moore never experienced.
And let's not forget how the Democrat Party is now home to those who are openly anti-Semitic.
Moore was supported by Trump to the very end, and most Republicans still voted for him, too. King was known to be a racist scumbag for years, but he was only punished when the media focused on a few of his comments.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostIt's just as bad inside the GOP.
Moore was supported by Trump to the very end, and most Republicans still voted for him, too. King was known to be a racist scumbag for years, but he was only punished when the media focused on a few of his comments.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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