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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNo collusion. No obstruction. Give it up, carpe, it's over.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostGood thing they're mostly anti-gun!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostConsidering the level and scope of the scrutinization I'm actually somewhat surprised at how few indictments there were. Compare it, for example to Bill Clinton.
Here is a list of 40 Clinton associates who were convicted of various crimesconvicted of 18 felonies and died in prison. Before his death he turned on Clinton who he previously staunchly defended[1]
Susan McDougal served 18 months for refusing to answer questions for a grand jury, on whether President Bill Clinton lied in his testimony during her Whitewater trial and immediately afterwards began a two year sentence for four counts of fraud and conspiracy relating to the Whitewater scandal but was later pardoned by Bill Clinton (a reward for keeping her mouth shut?).
Jim Guy Tucker was convicted of one count of conspiracy and one count of mail fraud and forced to resign as Governor. He was given a lenient sentence of four years' probation and house detention because of his poor health (a month after his conviction he received a liver transplant).
And then there was Hillary's law partner Webster Hubbell, who Bill appointed Associate Attorney General, who pled guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of tax fraud and sentenced to 21 months. Later he entered a plea bargain agreement where he pled guilty to one charge of failing to disclose a potential conflict of interest in exchange for having all charges dropped against his his wife, his lawyer, his accountant and got probation.
What makes Hubbell especially interesting is what he said while in prison during a phone call to his wife (all calls from prisoners are recorded)
"So I need to roll over one more time."
And of course there were also those associated with all of the money funneled from China to the Clinton-Gore campaign through Buddhist monasteries and other means -- the one where FBI agents came forward at the time (unheard of back then) to publicly complain that Clinton's DoJ interfered with the investigation and folks like "Charlie" Trie, John Huang, James Riady, and Maria Hsia were convicted of various crimes.
This isn't to excuse having a number of associates with shady behavior but rather to note that it isn't anything new, especially if the president is being heavily investigated.
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The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou might be surprised how many of them are "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" about this. From the celebutards that surround themselves with gun-toting bodyguards to folks like the late Carl Rowan.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Their legacy is that they ruined their own credibility, and their continuing efforts to destroy him by innuendo and investigation can only add to their disgrace.
Jenny, Jenny, Dreams are ten-a-penny.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostTheir legacy is that they ruined their own credibility, and their continuing efforts to destroy him by innuendo and investigation can only add to their disgrace.
Jenny, Jenny, Dreams are ten-a-penny.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostTheir legacy is that they ruined their own credibility, and their continuing efforts to destroy him by innuendo and investigation can only add to their disgrace.
Jenny, Jenny, Dreams are ten-a-penny.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDid you read the last paragraph before the footnote? I'll assume not.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIs that anything like "you can wish in one hand and spit in the other, and see which fills up first"?1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostI meant that the idea that MSM has destroyed its credibility is wishful thinking. If that were possible, it would have been done long since.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNo collusion. No obstruction. Give it up, carpe, it's over.
The letter from Barr revealed Mueller was unable to draw a conclusion
Plus, we still have the certainty of US Intel that Russia meddled in the election, the slew of indited Trump associates with Russian connections and a raft of investigations being conducted by the NY Southern District Court.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostDon't break out the champagne just yet.
The letter from Barr revealed Mueller was unable to draw a conclusion
Plus, we still have the certainty of US Intel that Russia meddled in the election, the slew of indited Trump associates with Russian connections and a raft of investigations being conducted by the NY Southern District Court.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSome Democrats are making noise about the wording in the report that Mueller did not "exonerate" Trump of the obstruction of justice charge. Former New Jersey governor and federal prosecutor Chris Christie sets the matter straight:
As for the SDNY, they're under the purview of AG Barr, and he's not going to simply let them pick up the investigation where Mueller left off.
Give it up, Tass, it's over. Trump won bigly.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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It is difficult to show a corrupt motive to obstruct an investigation into a crime that did not occur.Anyone who tries to make sense of the clotted and obtuse language of the obstruction statutes and the utterly unhelpful court interpretationsIlya SominPeter MarguliesLast edited by tabibito; 03-24-2019, 10:11 PM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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