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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"Individual donations" attached to a corporation. Again, they're not PRIVATE donations. The onlly question I have is when did Cortez decide it was wrong to accept that money? Was it before or after the election?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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So you're asserting that it was before the election. That raises some interesting questions.
"But I had to do the wrong thing in order to do the right thing." Hmmm!Last edited by Mountain Man; 02-09-2019, 07:44 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAgain - I am not interested in "what happened." I am interested in what WILL happen. If an existing law is not uniformly applied - then THAT is what should be addressed. You don't solve the problem by throwing open the gates to dark money in politics. And I continue to be amazed that you are defending the very people working to ensure that your voice is heard as little as possible. It just boggles the imagination....Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAn issue seems to be though that the US constitution is too difficult to amend.
An issue I see around the world is that it's difficult to strike the correct balance as to how difficult it should be to amend a constitution. e.g. Alabama's constitution by contrast has 928 amendments which is just getting absurd.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostThe United States Constitution is not supposed to be haphazardly amended. The founding fathers did not want mob rule.
It was deliberately designed to let cool heads prevail and not have every passing fancy and fad enshrined into the constitution.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"Individual donations" attached to a corporation. Again, they're not PRIVATE donations. The onlly question I have is when did Cortez decide it was wrong to accept that money? Was it before or after the election?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostFrom the beginning of her campaign she has belonged to the Justice Democrats group which requires its candidates comply with its rules about not accepting corporate PAC and big donor money in order to be part of the group. Thus AOC complied with these rules ever since the beginning of her campaign. I heard about her candidacy and saw multiple interviews with her long before she was elected because I was following the progress of the Justice Democrats closely because my number one concern with regard to US politics is stopping corruption and that was the primary original point of that organisation.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd unless you are willing to apply the same restrictions to media conglomerates, you are pounding sand. And I don't think you are willing...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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From what I can tell, the reason for Alabama's extremely long state constitution is that all sorts of stuff that in any other state would just be a regular law gets put into their constitution. In particular, the tax code is in the constitution so every change to taxation has to be put into the Constitution--I expect any constitution would be extremely long if in the last century every change to taxation has to be a constitutional amendment.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI am absolutely willing. Just not sure how you draw a clear line between "reporting" and "campaigning."Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostIt is completely subjective, that is why a Michael Moore movie is acceptable and a Citizens United movie isn't. And why it won't work and never will be fair.
As for Moore vs. Citizen's - I am under the impression that Moore produced a movie that hit the theaters, and Citizens was trying to get airtime on a national network. Is that incorrect?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAs far as I can tell - she has never said it is wrong to accept individual donations. You're blowing smoke, MM, and it's tedious. Last word to you.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post"It's not fair" is the whine of a toddler (and lately a president), Seer. I don't pay it a lot of attention.
As for Moore vs. Citizen's - I am under the impression that Moore produced a movie that hit the theaters, and Citizens was trying to get airtime on a national network. Is that incorrect?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citize...FEC#BackgroundAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, see the link. They first were prevented from advertising on public air waves, Moore and his corporate buddies were not. Then they were prevented from showing the movies (they actually produced two movies). One movie was slated for Direct TV, a private company. The law prevent any such action if it reached over 50,000 viewers, which Moore's movie and advertisements certainly did. Both subjective and biased.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citize...FEC#Background
That doesn't make the media issue less difficult - but your example is not a good one to make the case.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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