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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    How many of his campaign promises has he kept?
    That's a complicated question, and depends what you count as a promise and how many major or minor things you're concerned about.

    Obviously promises to this group haven't been kept... e.g. his transgender military ban.


    Likewise not only hasn't The Wall been built, but the imaginary Wall has been changed from concrete to steel, and the pretty major part where Mexico pays for it seems to have gotten lost somewhere in the post.

    I would say that one major promise has been kept: He's appointed very conservative SCOTUS judges. So my own answer to your question would be "one".

    Politifact track what they consider promises though I think they are faaaar too generous to conservatives in general on their site. By their count he has kept 17 promises, broken 18, and the other 67 promises don't fall into either category yet.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      That's a complicated question, and depends what you count as a promise and how many major or minor things you're concerned about.
      I agree, and withdraw the question. I checked a number of sources, and you're right -- it not only depends on what you count as a promise, but how you interpret whether that promise was kept.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Stacy Abrams response was fine. Factually accurate, focused on the issues. She should get some dental work done though IMO.

        Bernie Sanders absolutely nailed his response. He'll sail to the Presidency in 2020. Might win 50 states IMO.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Stacy Abrams response was fine. Factually accurate, focused on the issues. She should get some dental work done though IMO.
          I'm mildly amused that you went for the "personal appearance" thing.

          Bernie Sanders absolutely nailed his response. He'll sail to the Presidency in 2020. Might win 50 states IMO.
          Bernie had a response?
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            I'm mildly amused that you went for the "personal appearance" thing.
            I found it distracting, so commented on it. Trump should be less Orange, also, if you want me to be fair and balanced.

            Bernie had a response?
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              I found it distracting, so commented on it. Trump should be less Orange, also, if you want me to be fair and balanced.
              Trump IS less orange (than he was in the past) - and his hair is less... um... more white(ish).

              In that video - the still shot at the beginning - Bernie looks like he just died and hasn't fallen over yet.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                In that video - the still shot at the beginning - Bernie looks like he just died and hasn't fallen over yet.
                Well he gets rather feisty later on. Quite energetic in his anger and moral outrage.
                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Well he gets rather feisty later on. Quite energetic in his anger and moral outrage.
                  Kinda like... "weak point - yell louder"?
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Kinda like... "weak point - yell louder"?
                    Hardly, his every point was excellent.

                    But I do wonder if someone suggested that it might be a major attack on him that he was 'too old' to run for president, and to make it very clear that he still had the enthusiasm and energy by being passionate throughout. Bernie usually reins in his passion and temper a lot to be polite, was good to see him let loose a bit more.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Hardly, his every point was excellent.

                      But I do wonder if someone suggested that it might be a major attack on him that he was 'too old' to run for president, and to make it very clear that he still had the enthusiasm and energy by being passionate throughout. Bernie usually reins in his passion and temper a lot to be polite, was good to see him let loose a bit more.
                      Let's just hope he doesn't work himself up into having a stroke.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Let's just hope he doesn't work himself up into having a stroke.
                        Oh, ok, if you insist.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                          Well [Bernie] gets rather feisty later on. Quite energetic in his anger and moral outrage.
                          Yep, if one cared about speech rather than substance, then this speech was good...

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                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            Stacy Abrams response was fine. Factually accurate, focused on the issues.
                            No it didn't. It focused on her and her "accomplishments" and Democrat exaggerations and half-truths.


                            Bernie Sanders absolutely nailed his response. He'll sail to the Presidency in 2020. Might win 50 states IMO.
                            Bernie looked and talked like his typical crazy self. Identity politics, claims of "racism", and other leftist lunacy.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                              Bernie looked and talked like his typical crazy self. Identity politics, claims of "racism", and other leftist lunacy.
                              But but but... he was PASSIONATE about it!
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                But but but... he was PASSIONATE about it!
                                Since he was so hyped up on racism and such, why didn't he mention Ralph Northam's racist photo and admission of blackfacing or Justin Fairfax's alleged sexual assault? you know... things about which the left hammered on Trump and Brett Kavanaugh?
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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