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  • #31
    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    I think the best way to go is to inform people that we cannot rely on big government to do anything in our interest.
    And we can pretty much rely on politicians to do what's in their own best interest.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
      I think the best way to go is to inform people that we cannot rely on big government to do anything in our interest.
      Well, actually you can, but not if you keep getting conned into voting against your own best interests and in favor of the special interests and the republican legislators that are in their pockets. Trump conned you into believing he was going to drain the swamp and then he filled it with even more corruption. Funny thing is, you Trumpsters never seem to see it. He certainly knows you well!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JimL View Post
        Well, actually you can, but not if you keep getting conned into voting against your own best interests and in favor of the special interests and the republican legislators that are in their pockets. Trump conned you into believing he was going to drain the swamp and then he filled it with even more corruption. Funny thing is, you Trumpsters never seem to see it. He certainly knows you well!
        This is the time when we just go exchanging senseless attempts to persuade each other how the other guy has been tricked more. I may need to take an extra break before continuing in this part of the senseless extension of the thread.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Well, actually you can, but not if you keep getting conned into voting against your own best interests and in favor of the special interests and the republican legislators that are in their pockets. Trump conned you into believing he was going to drain the swamp and then he filled it with even more corruption. Funny thing is, you Trumpsters never seem to see it. He certainly knows you well!
          I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Democrats in the pockets of special interest groups too.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Well, actually you can, but not if you keep getting conned into voting against your own best interests and in favor of the special interests and the republican legislators that are in their pockets. Trump conned you into believing he was going to drain the swamp and then he filled it with even more corruption. Funny thing is, you Trumpsters never seem to see it. He certainly knows you well!
            A Democrat even mentioning fiscal responsibility is absolutely hilarious.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              A Democrat even mentioning fiscal responsibility is absolutely hilarious.
              That coming from a republican is precious. You're to dumb to recognise the fact that your party is all talk. Democrats have to come in and clean up their economic mess every time. Just look at your current republican Administration, not only are they a bunch of unethical crooks, they've increased the debt by a trillion and a half dollars at a time when there was no need to, no hole to dig ourselves out of, because the Obama Administration already accomplished that.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                That coming from a republican is precious. You're to dumb to recognise the fact that your party is all talk. Democrats have to come in and clean up their economic mess every time. Just look at your current republican Administration, not only are they a bunch of unethical crooks, they've increased the debt by a trillion and a half dollars at a time when there was no need to, no hole to dig ourselves out of, because the Obama Administration already accomplished that.
                You're too stupid to know the difference between to and too.


                The main source of the debt "increase" is the corporate tax cuts so businesses can afford to innovate, expand, and attract private investment money to do them.
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                  You're too stupid to know the difference between to and too.


                  The main source of the debt "increase" is the corporate tax cuts so businesses can afford to innovate, expand, and attract private investment money to do them.
                  I see, so you fell for that one too!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    You're to dumb to recognise the fact that your party is all talk.
                    JimL strikes again:

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      ...You're to dumb to recognise....
                      When you're not the brightest crayon in the tool shed, and can't even spell 'recognize', it's kinda laughable when you call others "dumb".
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        When you're not the brightest crayon in the tool shed, and can't even spell 'recognize', it's kinda laughable when you call others "dumb".
                        That is the correct spelling in British English.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          That is the correct spelling in British English.
                          Jimmy is as British as Elizabeth Warren is Native American.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            I see, so you fell for that one too!
                            And I see you're still a Democrat
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              I would say raising taxes is usually beneficial to the economy. The US saw great years of growth in the 1945-1975 era when taxes were sky-high. The top income tax bracket under Eisenhower paid 91%.

                              A reason for this is that while people living paycheck to paycheck spend all the money they earn each week on goods and services, as typically does the government, the group who doesn't spend as much as they earn is rich people (they have a lower "marginal propensity to consume" in economy terminology) and their lack of spending on goods and services can become too great and businesses' sales will drop if people aren't spending ("aggregate demand" drops), so transferring that unspent money from the rich to a government that spends it will increase total demand for goods and services within the economy (increase "aggregate demand") thus improving the day-to-day sales of all businesses.

                              Printing money is occasionally useful in a deflationary crisis to help improve the economy. Its effects usually seem to be slightly negative though, though that has recently become a topic of debate among academics. (See "modern monetary theory")
                              It's like you live in some bizarre mirror universe or something.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                It's like you live in some bizarre mirror universe or something.
                                It's called reality, you should try it sometime.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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